Some of the core development team will be sprinting full time for the week 
leading up to beta 1, so expect a lot of things to get added then.

My main concern with this is compatibility rather than the interface, but as a 
new feature I think it's best to be only in setuptools. Distutils is minimal 
support for building and as long as it works I don't see any reason to change 
it given the ease of getting alternatives.

Cheers,
Steve

Top-posted from my Windows Phone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Sylvain Corlay" <[email protected]>
Sent: ‎8/‎28/‎2016 3:35
To: "Ralf Gommers" <[email protected]>
Cc: "DistUtils mailing list" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Distutils] Proposed new Distutils API for compiler flagdetection 
(Issue26689)

Hi All,


The beta deadline for new features is approaching dangerously.


I agree with Thomas that being able to require Python 3.6 for a project does 
not appear so distant for me (as soon as it is a Python 3 project only).


Any chance to get this through? Checking support for language features will be 
more and more required since new version of the C++ standard are becoming more 
frequent. I understand that it is not an issue for a project like numpy, but 
this is a check I do in every single one of my extension projects.

Thanks,


Sylvain



On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Ralf Gommers <[email protected]> wrote:



On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Thomas Kluyver <[email protected]> wrote:

There's obviously some cost in code duplication; I haven't looked at the code 
in question, so I don't know how bad this is.



This patch is pretty short and understandable, so not bad.




I've run into this argument before when trying to change things in 
non-packaging-related parts of the stdlib, and I agree with Sylvain that it's 
fundamentally problematic. If we're trying to improve the stdlib, we're 
obviously taking a long view, but that's how we ensure the stdlib is still 
useful in a few years time. This goes for packaging tools as much as anything 
else.



This I don't agree with - packaging is fundamentally different for the reasons 
Donald gave.


Ralf




I already have projects where I'm happy to require Python >=3.4, so being able 
to depend on Python 3.6 is not such a distant prospect.



Thomas
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