Yw! * Pytest, tox, and devpi handle plugins with pluggy; which works with OS and Python package installs AFAICT: https://pluggy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
* IDK what's needed to remove a package from a repo because it's dangerously out of date. * Arrow recently gained lots of build/test/packaging scripts (that run on TravisCI and AppVeyor): - https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/master/.travis.yml - TIL about 'after_success:' - https://github.com/apache/arrow/tree/master/ci * A few certbot links that you're probably already aware of: - https://github.com/certbot/certbot/blob/master/.travis.yml - https://github.com/certbot/certbot/blob/master/tox.ini * And the TravisCI deployment docs: - https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/deployment/ - https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/deployment/releases/ (GitHub releases) - https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/deployment/pypi/ - https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/deployment/launchpad/ - [ ] PPA - [ ] EPEL - [ ] Copr (Fedora RPM builds for yum/dnf) - [ ] Conda-forge On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, Brad Warren <b...@eff.org> wrote: > > >> On Jul 24, 2018, at 4:36 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> However, there *are* folks that have been working on allowing > >> applications to be defined primarily as Python projects, and then have > >> the creation of wrapper native installers be a pushbutton exercise, > >> rather than requiring careful human handholding. > > > > But it sounds like they also want to be able to install/remove/upgrade > > *parts* of the Python project, for their plugin support. > That’s correct. We currently have 18 official plugins for Certbot with > plans to add more and a few dozen third-party plugins. > > Do any of these tools allow that? > This is a good question. If we went with something like dh-virtualenv or > packaged virtualenvs with fpm, would we be able to have separate packages > for our plugins that installed things in the same virtualenv? I haven’t > looked into this yet, but I wouldn’t expect this to work. > > That's the thing that really made me think about conda. > My biggest concern with conda right now is I believe we (or our users) > would be on their own for setting up a cron job or systemd timer for > renewal. Is this correct? > > > On Jul 24, 2018, at 11:20 PM, Chris Jerdonek <chris.jerdo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Just to be clear, I wasn't meaning to promote or recommend the Docker > > option I described. > Sure! After reading your 2nd email describing how this would work in more > detail, I think this would require a pretty major rewrite to how Certbot > currently works. Given the other downsides, I’m not sure this is the best > approach for us, but I appreciate you throwing out the idea regardless just > in case it was! > > > On Jul 26, 2018, at 3:20 AM, Ben Finney via Distutils-SIG < > distutils-sig@python.org> wrote: > > Just focus on Certbot, and cheer from the sidelines as the OS > distributions > > do the work of third party packages. > > > > Yes, that's a different set of problems (for example, keeping Certbot > > compatible with those versions of the libraries the OS repositories > > provide). > We’ve done the work to maintain compatibility with the older versions of > our dependencies available in the official OS repos where we are packaged. > The source of our problems with official OS packaging is described below > and in the Google Doc linked in my initial email. > > > On Jul 28, 2018, at 8:53 AM, matt...@woodcraft.me.uk wrote: > > > > I wouldn't be too put off by the idea of Debian politics. Certbot should > be a good fit for stable-updates: > > We thought so too and getting updates like this was our main packaging > plan when we launched in 2015. Unfortunately, it hasn’t gone well and is > the main reason we’re seeking our own solution. Perhaps we did something > incorrectly, but as Nathaniel pointed out, Certbot is broken in Debian > Stretch and has been since January. The same and many other problems affect > the packages in Ubuntu Xenial. We’ve also struggled to find people to help > maintain our PPA for older, non-EOL’d versions of Ubuntu. > > If anyone reading this would like to help us solve these problems or know > someone who would, please reach out off-list. While these packages exist in > OS repos, some users will continue to use them regardless of the > alternative packaging approach we take. Unless the current issues are > resolved and we’re confident new ones in the future will be fixed quickly > as well, I think we need to offer alternative packaging so we can provide > our users some means of getting a working version of Certbot. > > > On Jul 28, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Wes Turner <wes.tur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Took a minute more to read the gdoc link. > > Wes Turner, while I don’t have any specific questions or comments right > now, thank you very much for all the ideas and links.
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