Hi Bertrand, If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical distribution of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at the iCLA files without displaying names of committers, just the countries and we will know for sure how geographically diverse we are. This will answer some key questions like "is there a diversity problem?" and comments like "Show me the facts supporting our lack of diversity" will be dealt with. Even if its just one aspect of diversity(geographical).
Look at a project like https://whimsy.apache.org/, they collect all these info and display them for all of us to consume. Can we not collect country information from iCLAs without showing names of people? Just the countries and display by continent. I went looking and found these https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/board and https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents/iclas by analyzing the Whimsy source code and checking their data sources. I dont have permission to view the above files but can someone confirm if these files contain country information which we could anonymously use to prove if we have geographical diversity problem or not? The last survey had a response rate of 13%. Do you think that good enough for making decisions? We need to look for other ways to calculate our diversity numbers. Thanks. Awasum On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:26 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:17 AM Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote: > > ...I was wondering if we could get country information for all > Committers, > > PMCs, Directors and Members and see if we can even draw some facts on > > geographical distribution of our volunteers?... > > There's http://community.zones.apache.org/map.html but it only > includes people "who have chosen to publically share their location in > their FOAF files". > > You cannot use that information without people's consent, so scraping > iCLAs is not acceptable. > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: diversity-unsubscr...@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: diversity-h...@apache.org > >
