> On Sep 11, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Sander Striker <s.stri...@striker.nl> wrote: > > Apologies if I'm not posting to the right list, feel free to redirect me to > dev@ if that is more appropriate. > > Sitting in a couple of sessions at ApacheCon NA I notice that one dimension > of diversity is non-code contributions. > > I've observed that the advice to people that want to get involved is, > paraphrased: > - find a project that interests you > - find something to do, like bug triage, or documentation, or organizing > meetups, or... whatever the project needs > - engage and do that
Yes, that is exactly how I would phrase it if someone asked me, with one possible addition: Get familiar with the project. Learn how to install it, what it’s used for. The problems that it solves. It’s impossible to contribute to a project if one doesn’t understand what it does, and why. The application domain. > > On Sep 11, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Sander Striker <s.stri...@striker.nl> wrote: > > Seeing that advice makes me realize we are now dealing with potential > contributors with very different motivations. While before contributions > came in because someone had an itch to scratch (a bug to fix, a feature to > add, ...) there are now also people that come in looking for something to > do, where a project is not necessarily a starting point. There is a > different motivator, and these contributors are looking to apply their > skillset in practice. > > If this is the case, I wonder if we can look at this more as a problem of > supply and demand. That is, by doing inventory of what projects need (bug > triaging, documentation, user support, ...), making it much easier for > people to find an area where they can apply their particular skills. In > other words a nice Community Insights project. There’s this: https://helpwanted.apache.org I tried it a few years back. Wanted to attract new contributors. It didn’t work out. The people who ‘applied’ were expecting the experience to be like getting hired for a regular job. Where there’s an orientation, training, etc. We’re all busy and only have the time to provide some mentoring. One has to be extraordinarily motivated, i.e. actually having a need for the project before there’re willing to subject themselves to the steep learning curve of joining an Apache project. — Shawn > On Sep 11, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Sander Striker <s.stri...@striker.nl> wrote: > > I don't have the cycles to actually execute on such a project, but I > thought it useful enough to share. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: diversity-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: diversity-h...@apache.org