Dave,
It's my hope that some illustrative examples, if presented briefly
and succinctly more for their goals/differences than for their
technical details, will be of great help. Examples can:
- help people understand abstract goals, and as importantly,
understand them in the same way (I've seen people interpret a
requirement like "privacy" very differently and not even realize
their different interpretations, until concrete cases came up)
- convince BOF attendees who haven't worked on such a system
personally that such systems exist, are deployed, are not theoretical
or research
I'll work with the BOF speakers to make sure that the presentations
of existing solutions focus on high-level stuff: problem statement,
goals and requirements, models and key differences.
I do agree with your list of questions and that they need to be
answered, let's work on that. I encourage the people involved in
SXIP and Passel and anything else to post real use cases they feel
are particularly illustrative.
In the meantime, I expect people participating on this list in
advance of the BOF to read the documentary input.
Thanks,
Lisa
On Feb 24, 2006, at 9:39 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:
Good questions.
I helped write the spec for a technology called Passel that
attempted to
solve some problems in this space, and the whitepaper may be of
interest
to those on this list:
http://passel.org/whitepaper.html
Something like that provides good input.
However...
I think the real issue is getting participants on the list to share
a basic
model. External papers won't do that.
The summary list that prompted my own questions was specifically
useful for
making explicit, brief statements to the group, for the group to
consider. My
feeling is that we need to do same, simple, explicit thing for
answering the
questions I asked.
Until we have that, and until we have converged on agreement about
the answers,
we are likely -- actually I consider it a certainty -- to have
folks wandering
about the mailing list with wildly different assumptions and
expectations about
the work and the desired output.
d/
--
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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