On Jun 4, 2006, at 16:16, John Merrells wrote:

Not thinking through all the issues leads to solutions that can't be
built upon. Note that OpenID can move an 'identifier claim'... but
can't move other claims... because it wasn't part of the design
requirements.

Sure you don't mean to imply that nobody can build on OpenID? Today, there are working and deployed OpenID-enabled identity providers that do
 - VCard data exchange
 - social network data exchange
 - registration data exchange
 - authenticated messaging
and there a number in the labs that add a fairly impressive set of other capabilities ranging from location-based services to social media and e-commerce enablement. (And that's just the ones I know about.)

On top of OpenID, no problem whatsoever.

You are entirely right that OpenID's initial requirements were only about proving that a browser session was owned by somebody who had control over a certain URL. However, in conjunction with the Yadis discovery and composition framework, it has become a very "composable" piece of technology since last fall; for example, at NetMesh we are running all LID services on top of OpenID authentication just as well as on top of LID's original GPG-based authentication. A number of other companies have built on top as well with new services that meet their customer's needs.

Let's not mistake orthogonality for limitation when looking at designs.

I don't want to take this thread off subject from "WARP - Web Authentication Resistant to Phishing" -- I just thought I need to put the record straight here.



Johannes Ernst
NetMesh Inc.

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