I really can't tell if those two new fields would be integrated in
core, either wait for feedback here, and/or give it a try with a
ticket (and i'm pretty sure it'll land in "Design Decision Needed").

On May 1, 2:42 pm, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
<cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah, subclassing sounds the way forward. I was thinking something like:
>
> SignedIntegerField = IntegerField(min_value=–2147483648, max_value=
> 2147483647)
> UnsignedIntegerField = IntegerField(min_value=0, max_value=4294967295)
>
> Do you think there would be much chance in having these two field types
> included in the core? If so, should I create a patch for fields.py and
> submit??
>
> As for the MySQL strict mode, I'll submit a documentation patch, and see if
> it gets accepted :)
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Mathieu AGOPIAN
> <mathieu.agop...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > For reference, this discussion is linked to
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread...
> > and to the tickethttp://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/15923
>
> > Cal,
>
> > The only thing that i could imagine regarding "fixing" this issue
> > would indeed be a documentation addition in the MySQL (or MySQLdb)
> > part of thehttp://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/databases/page,
> > explaining the possible issue with integers that are too large to fit
> > in the appropriate mysql column (though i'm not sure how all this
> > works, as i'm far from a MySQL or ORM expert).
> > Specifically, explaining how to set the sql_mode to "traditional" as
> > explained by kmtracey (http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/
> > 15923#comment:10) I believe.
>
> > Let's see if there's anyone reading this mailing list showing interest
> > about this, and/or feel free to create a feature request on trac, and
> > see if it's accepted.
>
> > On a side note, as python doesn't seem to have any issue with large
> > integers, i guess you could subclass the IntegerField, and add to it's
> > validation a check to see if the resulting integer can be stored in a
> > 32 bits using either a simple comparison, like the following:
> >    -int('1' * 31, 2) < int(field_value) < int('1' * 31, 2)
>
> > Mathieu
>
> > On Apr 30, 8:31 pm, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
> > <cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Hey Mathieu,
>
> > > Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm starting to see now why the core
> > > devs are reluctant to modify IntegerField.
>
> > > I'm wondering if maybe Django should have a SignedIntegerField and
> > > UnsignedIntegerField as part of the core (for those that wish to have
> > > enforced 32-bit integers), with the same INT_MIN and INT_MAX from
> > limits.h (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limits.h). But there again, would
> > this be
> > > considered un-pythonic or against the ethics of Django?
>
> > > I guess really it should be up to MySQL to have strict mode by default.
> > But,
> > > as this is unlikely to happen, could we perhaps consider having a
> > commented
> > > out entry in the settings.py file that allows you to set strict mode for
> > all
> > > SQL connections? Or, perhaps a documentation change, which explains
> > easily
> > > to the user how to do it (Kinda like the storage_engine thing onhttp://
> > docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/databases/#creating-your-tables) .
>
> > > Let me know your thoughts :)
>
> > > Cal
>
> > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Mathieu AGOPIAN
> > > <mathieu.agop...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > I'm afraid there isn't such a thing as "a valid signed value", if we're
> > > > still talking about "size wise".
>
> > > > For django (python), the integer you gave in the ticket is perfectly
> > valid.
> > > > Here's a way for you to check that :
> > > > >>> s = '351760125423456632454565345363453423453465345453'
> > > > >>> int(s)
> > > > 351760125423456632454565345363453423453465345453L
>
> > > > And indeed, an IntegerField validates that the content of the field can
> > be
> > > > converted to an int this way (check django/forms/fields.py line 230).
>
> > > > So definitely, as Alex pointed, this is an issue on MySQL's side, not
> > > > Django's.
> > > > I believe this can't (shan't?) be fixed at Django's level, as there's
> > no
> > > > "size" limitation for the IntegerField, as you would have on a
> > CharField
> > > > with the *max_length* attribute.
>
> > > > And no, limiting the length of the string won't work, as "2147483647"
> > isn't
> > > > the same length as "-2147483647", but is the same length as
> > "9999999999" (if
> > > > we're taking the example of 2^32-1 as the max SIGNED INT value).
>
> > > > my two cents ;)
>
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