On 7/4/2013 5:40 AM, Benjamin Wohlwend wrote:
Hi,
I recently hit a problem where I have to provide translations for a
reusable app. In German (and most other languages, except English, it
seems), there are different second-person pronouns used in different
situations, see [1]. As an example, the sentence "Do you want to log
in" in its two German translations: "Wollen Sie sich anmelden?"
(formal, polite), and "Willst Du dich anmelden?" (casual). Because my
reusable app is used in all kinds of projects, ranging from a social
network to a banking website. Using "Sie" on the social network is
just as out-of-place as "Du" on the banking website.
What I did so far is something like this:
{% if is_formal %}
{% trans "Do you want to log in?" context 'formal' %}
{% else %}
{% trans "Do you want to log in?" context 'casual' %}
{% endif %}
Perhaps I'm naive, but would it work to treat these as two different
languages? We already deal with Portuguese (Brazil) and Portuguese
(Portugal), would it be possible for you to have German (Formal) and
German (Informal)? Of course, part of that label would be provided by
the user (German) and part by the app (Formal), but that composition and
selection of language could be done in one place in the app, rather than
everywhere strings appear.
--Ned.
This gets very tiresome if you have more than a few translation
strings. It's not DRY, and it's error prone. As it happens, ticket
#20383 would provide the perfect solution for this, even if the use
case therein is different. I guess Claude was right in his assertion
that the white labeling use case might be to limited to warrant the
additional complexity. The T-V distinction problem, on the other hand,
is present in (AFAIK) all Latin languages, German, and many other
languages. Is this enough reason to reopen that ticket?
Regards,
Benjamin
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%E2%80%93V_distinction
[2]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20383
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