Still waiting for other people to chime in on this thread, but so far I'm
not seeing any argument against the explained logic for having
`.get_or_none()`.

Comments appear to be more regarding how not to do it, rather than not
doing it at all.

Ultimately this either needs someone to find a flaw in my logic (have I
missed anything?), or needs a BDFL decision.

If all this needs to get approved is a patch, then I'll be happy to do so.

Cal




On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Shai Berger <s...@platonix.com> wrote:

> There is a family of names that would be valid -- names that cannot be
> used to
> name fields -- and that is names that begin with dunder.
>
> I would like to see neither get(__default=x) nor first(__only=True) -- I
> think
> that's quite ugly -- I just want to remind us that technically, the option
> exists.
>
> On Friday 14 March 2014 12:40:25 Michael Manfre wrote:
> > Good point. I forgot that some people would do that.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Florian Apolloner
> >
> > <f.apollo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 14, 2014 4:50:49 PM UTC+1, Michael Manfre wrote:
> > >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <
> > >>
> > >> cal.l...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
> > >>>> .get(or=None) (of some description) would be my preference, but even
> > >>>> that is ugly and confuses the existing API with "special" keywords
> that
> > >>>> aren't actually a filter.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would be strong -1 on having a special keyword.
> > >>
> > >> Even if the special keyword is 'default'? .get(..., default=None) is a
> > >> common python pattern that fits well with this usage.
> > >
> > > Yes, especially 'default' -- which is a perfectly valid name for a
> table
> > > column.
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