Adam: I don't think they should be optional, or if they are, they should be 
opt-out. The checks are a brilliant guard against error, but not running 
them as part of test invites them not being run at all in a TDD workflow, 
as often code can be developed with nothing but running the tests. It is 
also surprising that *only* test doesn't run them, since every other manage 
command 
does.


I agree with this. I don't see why an opt-out option is not valid? 

Dne torek, 20. oktober 2015 02.48.29 UTC+2 je oseba Tim Graham napisala:
>
> A ticket [1] and pull request [2] note that `manage.py test` ran the 
> system checks in Django 1.7 (as a side effect of call_command('migrate')), 
> but this is no longer the case in Django 1.8 since call_command() doesn't 
> trigger the system checks anymore.
>
> me: I'm of the opinion that running the system checks as part of the 
> manage.py 
> test command should be opt-in (for example, by writing a test that 
> asserts the call_command('check') output is empty. For example, when 
> debugging a single test, it doesn't seem necessary to have the overhead of 
> running check. As more options are added to check (e.g. #25500 
> <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/25500>), a default implementation 
> as currently proposed could become increasing inflexible. I'd like to 
> document the change in the 1.8 release notes and suggest the alternative.
>
>
> Adam: I don't think they should be optional, or if they are, they should 
> be opt-out. The checks are a brilliant guard against error, but not running 
> them as part of test invites them not being run at all in a TDD workflow, 
> as often code can be developed with nothing but running the tests. It is 
> also surprising that *only* test doesn't run them, since every other 
> manage command does.
> At YPlan we couldn't do without them as part of tests. Our aforementioned 
> 'installed packages' check saves a lot of time that would otherwise be 
> wasted understanding confusing error messages about imports not working, 
> and our other custom checks do verification similar to Django's, for issues 
> that without resolution it does not make sense to even attempt do any 
> tests. Also we don't notice any real overhead, we can still get a single 
> test to run in 1 second (with --keepdb :) ) despite all our extra messing 
> around with pip freeze etc.
>
> Other opinions?
>
> [1] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/25415
> [2] https://github.com/django/django/pull/5293
>

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