Ugh, I guess I'm in favor of max_length=191. It'll just be awkward to 
explain that one in the docs.

On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 3:27:23 PM UTC-5, Collin Anderson wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I finally looked at this more today. I started working on the INDEX 
> (col1(191)) solution from #18392, but unfortunately I don't think we can 
> use that solution in this case because it's a UNIQUE index. (I still think 
> it's best solution for non-unique indexes.)
>
> I think these are our options (in my humble order of preference), none of 
> them ideal:
> 1. Make username max_length=191 or some other nice number less 191.
> 2. Revert completely back to username max_length=30
> 3. Tell mysql folks they can only use the insecure[1] version of utf8 
> unless do some really complex reconfiguration (see "Hardest" solution in 
> the article [2]) to get utfmb4 support. Based on the fact that they're 
> using mysql and not PostgreSQL in the first place, many mysql users are 
> probably are unable to make the needed changes.
>
> The good news is that mysql 5.7.7 (which, will _start_ to get a lot of 
> real use in 16.04) changes some defaults[3] to make the "hardest" solution 
> easier (just need to set ROW_FORMAT=DYNAMIC). MariaDB hasn't changed the 
> default [4]. I hope they do before RHEL/CentOS 8. Even then it's a long 
> wait before most people have it.
>
> Collin
>
> [1] https://youtu.be/qFfjJ8pOrWY?t=2534
> [2] https://serversforhackers.com/mysql-utf8-and-indexing
> [3] http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=68453#c430229
> [4] 
> https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/xtradbinnodb-server-system-variables/#innodb_large_prefix
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Tim Graham <timog...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I merged the often requested increase of User.username max_length to 254 
>> characters [1] a few weeks ago, however, the ticket was reopened pointing 
>> out this issue:
>>
>>
>> "This patch breaks on MySQL installations using the utf8mb4 charset, 
>> because it breaks the index length limit - it comes out at a maximum of 254 
>> * 4 = 1016 bytes whilst by default InnoDB can only index 767 bytes. I found 
>> this because I am using utf8mb4 in django-mysql's tests.
>>
>> Django encourages using the utf8 charset (3 bytes per character - cannot 
>> store emojis), although there has been some discussion for moving to 
>> utf8mb4 in #18392 <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/18392>. One can 
>> index 254 character utf8mb4 fields in MySQL by using a couple settings as 
>> described in that ticket, Django could enforce those, or the field could be 
>> changed to just 191 characters instead which is the maximum indexable (767 
>> // 4)."
>>
>> Do we have any MySQL enthusiasts willing to champion a patch (or at least 
>> a decision design about the best way to proceed) for #18392 [2] to resolve 
>> this? 
>>
>> [1] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20846
>> [2] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/18392
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