And we could also maybe add signals similar to pre_add and post_add that 
are sent when calling remove() and clear() on a relation set, getting a bit 
closer to QuerySet.update()

Den måndag 6 februari 2017 kl. 10:22:27 UTC+1 skrev Oskar Persson:
>
> No, if the QuerySet.update() signals were to be implemented then these 
> signals wouldn't be needed anymore. However, since there currently aren't 
> any solutions for the QuerySet.update() signals that aren't a performance 
> concern then the add signals could be a first step there. They don't solve 
> all the problems that the update signals does but they solve some of them 
> without having any real impact on performance. 
>
> Den måndag 6 februari 2017 kl. 03:00:18 UTC+1 skrev Tim Graham:
>>
>> Since you created a ticket [0], I assume you feel there is value is 
>> adding this signal even if the QuerySet.update() signal is added? Could you 
>> explain the rationale?
>>
>> What are the performance implications of additional (possibly redundant) 
>> signals? As Aymeric said on the pull request, "Performance should be a 
>> consideration here, pre_init and post_init is a very expensive historical 
>> mistake."
>>
>> [0] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/27809
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 12:29:04 PM UTC-5, Oskar Persson wrote:
>>>
>>> It would. Though that seems like its trying to solve a bigger issue 
>>> since then you probably *need* the updated objects, which I'm not 
>>> including
>>>
>>> Den fredag 3 februari 2017 kl. 18:21:55 UTC+1 skrev Tim Graham:
>>>>
>>>> #21461 proposes to add signals for QuerySet.update(). Would this solve 
>>>> your use case?
>>>>
>>>> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/21461
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 12:14:23 PM UTC-5, mtnpaul wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to know. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Oskar Persson <oskar....@polken.se> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No, the save method isn't called unless you specify bulk=False 
>>>>>> <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.10/ref/models/relations/#django.db.models.fields.related.RelatedManager.add>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den fredag 3 februari 2017 kl. 17:53:04 UTC+1 skrev mtnpaul:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought a Many-To-One would not require an intermediate table, so 
>>>>>>> it would be caught by pre-save and post-save on the object containing 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> Foreign Key. Is that not true?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Oskar Persson <oskar....@polken.se> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've created a pull request (8018) 
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/django/django/pull/8018> that adds the signals 
>>>>>>>> pre_add and post_add that are triggered when adding an object to a 
>>>>>>>> Many-To-One relation. The reason for this PR is to provide a simple 
>>>>>>>> (is 
>>>>>>>> there any other?) way to run custom code when ever adding an object to 
>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>> Many-To-One relation. There already exists a signal for 
>>>>>>>> Many-To-Many 
>>>>>>>> <https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.10/ref/signals/#m2m-changed> 
>>>>>>>> fields so why not for Many-To-One?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts on this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oskar Persson
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