AFAICT the performance hit is minimal unless you are doing something
slow when logging warnings (e.g. -Walways with a slow I/O py.warnings 
handler).

The Python/Django instrumentation simply adds a value to Model._state
and look it up on attribute accesses.

Cheers,
Simon

Le lundi 20 août 2018 19:34:11 UTC-4, Curtis Maloney a écrit :
>
> In general this sounds like a tremendously useful tool... I'm caused to 
> wonder, however... what, if any, are the performance impacts? 
>
> -- 
> Curtis 
>
>
>
> On 08/21/2018 08:10 AM, charettes wrote: 
> > Regarding the lazy loading of deferred fields and foreign keys 
> > I wanted to mention I've been working on a third-party application 
> > that allows overriding the default behavior[0]. 
> > 
> > The project works by tainting objects retrieved from "sealed" 
> > querysets and having fields descriptors lookup whether or not 
> > the object is "sealed" on attribute access and warn the developer 
> > about it if it's the case. Warnings can be elevated to errors 
> > using `filterwarnings` when deemed appropriated (e.g. CI, staging). 
> > 
> > It has been an useful tool to assist in figuring out where 
> > `select_related()` and `prefetch_related()` should be used 
> > to adjust complex projects database interactions. 
> > 
> > I assume a similar pattern could be used to mark objects retrieved 
> > from `QuerySet.__aiter__` to prevent non-async queries from being 
> > performed on attribute accesses; on `Model._state.async = True` 
> > field descriptors would error out. 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > Simon 
> > 
> > P.-S. 
> > 
> > While the project might look complex most of the code takes care 
> > of the delicate tasks of replacing fields descriptors once models 
> > are configured which could be significantly simplified if it was 
> > part of Django core. 
> > 
> > [0] https://github.com/charettes/django-seal 
> > Le samedi 9 juin 2018 02:30:59 UTC-4, Josh Smeaton a écrit : 
> > 
> >     I think most of what you've laid out sounds great and that pursuing 
> >     async Django is in the projects best interests. The sync to async 
> >     and async to sync wrappers that have come out of channels give me 
> >     much more confidence that this project is doable in a reasonable 
> >     amount of time with backwards compatibility being preserved. 
> > 
> >     The only real concern I have at the moment is around your comments 
> >     regarding on demand foreign key traversal. If existing code running 
> >     synchronously is going to be impacted, that's going to be very 
> >     difficult for a lot of people. If it's only asynchronous traversal 
> >     that'll have issues, then I have no real concern, as on demand 
> >     foreign key fetching is usually a bug anyway. 
> > 
> >     Having a brief read through the psycopg asynchronous docs[0], it 
> >     looks like a number of features will be impossible or troublesome to 
> >     use, like transactions, executemany, and named cursors (.iterator() 
> >     with server side cursors). We'd also need to investigate how 
> >     pgbouncer would work in async mode, as most large sites using 
> >     postgres are also using pgbouncer. I would expect support can only 
> >     further improve, especially if there is a driver like django 
> >     pushing. Fallback would just be to run inside a thread pool though, 
> >     so it's not a blocker for the rest of the proposal. 
> > 
> >     Very exciting times ahead! 
> > 
> >     [0] http://initd.org/psycopg/docs/advanced.html#asynchronous-support 
> >     <http://initd.org/psycopg/docs/advanced.html#asynchronous-support> 
> > 
> >     On Monday, 4 June 2018 23:18:23 UTC+10, Andrew Godwin wrote: 
> > 
> >         Hello everyone, 
> > 
> >         For a while now I have been working on potential plans for 
> >         making Django async-capable, and I finally have a plan I am 
> >         reasonably happy with and which I think we can actually do. 
> > 
> >         This proposed roadmap, in its great length, is here: 
> > 
> >         https://www.aeracode.org/2018/06/04/django-async-roadmap/ 
> >         <https://www.aeracode.org/2018/06/04/django-async-roadmap/> 
> > 
> >         I'd like to invite discussion on this potential plan - 
> including: 
> > 
> >           - Do we think async is worth going after? Note that this is 
> >         just async HTTP capability, not WebSockets (that would remain in 
> >         Channels) 
> > 
> >           - Can we do this in a reasonable timeframe? If not, is there a 
> >         way around that? 
> > 
> >           - Are the proposed modifications to how Django runs sensible? 
> > 
> >           - How should we fund this? 
> > 
> >         There's many more potential questions, and I really would love 
> >         feedback on this. I'm personally pretty convinced that we can 
> >         and should do this, but this is a decision we cannot take 
> >         lightly, and I would love to hear what you have to say. 
> > 
> >         Andrew 
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