Yep, I'm definitely in favor of dropping 3.5 early and using all the nice features extensively. Especially type annotations. All projects I work on use 3.6 or later for quite some time now, whatever debian guys might feel about stability.
Ivan. On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 12:16 PM Josh Smeaton <josh.smea...@gmail.com> wrote: > Don't discount being able to use features from newer versions of python > within Django itself. > > https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.6.html > > - dicts are more performant > - dicts/kwargs/class attributes are ordered (cpython implementation detail > for 3.6 - allowing us to consider removing descriptor counters) > - fstrings > - type annotations (something some people are quite in favour of) > - async comprehensions and generators (less important for Django right now > - may be more important for Channels) > - secrets module > - pathlib > - descriptor improvements (set_name, __init_subclass__) > > I'm more in favour of maintaining the existing policy than playing > favourites with distro support, but not strongly so. The LTS Django is > already covering Python 3.5 for 18 months **longer** than the EOL. I don't > think the newest versions of Django need to be so concerned with distro > compatibility. > > On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:03:54 UTC+11, Federico Capoano wrote: >> >> I would ask: what are the pros and cons of dropping support for python >> 3.5? >> >> I think allowing users to easily use and install django based >> applications is more important than strictly follow a python version >> support policy. >> >> I think that if we drop support for python 3.5, which is the default >> python version on many linux platforms right now, we will make the life of >> our users and developers harder. >> I don't understand the reason for doing so, if we have to do it for a >> good reason, like a security issue, or because django has to take advantage >> of features that are available only from python 3.6 onwards, I would be in >> favour, but if we have to do it only because the policy says so, without >> any other advantage, I would amend the policy. >> >> My 2 cents. >> >> Thanks for your hard work maintaining django >> Federico >> >> >> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:56:40 AM UTC-5, Tim Graham wrote: >>> >>> When deciding when to drop support for Python 2 in Django, there was >>> consensus to adopt this Python version support policy [0]: "Typically, we >>> will support a Python version up to and including the first Django LTS >>> release whose security support ends after security support for that version >>> of Python ends. For example, Python 3.3 security support ends September >>> 2017 and Django 1.8 LTS security support ends April 2018. Therefore Django >>> 1.8 is the last version to support Python 3.3." >>> >>> Since then, we didn't abide by this policy when dropping Python 3.4, >>> mainly because Debian stable still used Python 3.4 at the time and Claude >>> argued that some people like him would have difficulty contributing to >>> Django if they had to install another version of Python [1]. >>> >>> Based on the policy, it's time to drop support for Python 3.5 in the >>> master branch (Django 3.0) -- with Django 2.2 LTS supported until April >>> 2022 and Python 3.5 supported until September 2020). I created a ticket [2] >>> and PR [3] for dropping support for Python 3.5 [2], however, Claude >>> commented, "I'm not so enthusiast to drop Python 3.5 now (it is still the >>> default version in Debian stable). Couldn't this be done in Django 3.1 >>> instead?" >>> >>> Are you in favor of amending the Python support version policy to >>> account for the Python version in Debian stable? >>> >>> [0] >>> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/faq/install/#what-python-version-can-i-use-with-django >>> [1] >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-developers/4rbVKJYm8DI/TTh3i04pBQAJ >>> [2] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30116 >>> [3] https://github.com/django/django/pull/10864 >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/a8e5bc63-15b1-4c77-92ae-59e61daa30fd%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/a8e5bc63-15b1-4c77-92ae-59e61daa30fd%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. 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