Thanks for the YAPF suggestion (and sample config!) I'll have a go with 
this this week. 
(If we can get auto-formatting, just on diffs(?), that matches the existing 
style...)

On Monday, 22 April 2019 20:10:41 UTC+2, thinkwel...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I wonder if there's a middle ground between minimizing code churn and 
> having a standardized formatter. Our team recently switched to yapf after 
> carefully configuring a .style.yapf file that's included in the root 
> directory of every new repo. Once that config file is done, the workflow 
> for yapf vs an unconfigurable formatter is identical.
>
>
> I experimented a bit with the following .style.yapf settings on the django 
> codebase and think the output is as good as black's without some of the 
> arbitrariness of string quotes:
>
> [style]
> based_on_style = pep8
> column_limit=100
> i18n_function_call=['_']
> blank_line_before_nested_class_or_def=True
> join_multiple_lines=False
> indent_dictionary_value=False
>
> coalesce_brackets=True
> dedent_closing_brackets=True
> align_closing_bracket_with_visual_indent=False
> space_between_ending_comma_and_closing_bracket=False
>
> split_complex_comprehension=True
> split_before_first_argument=True
> split_before_logical_operator=False
> split_before_bitwise_operator=False
> split_arguments_when_comma_terminated=True
> split_before_expression_after_opening_paren=True
> split_before_named_assigns=True
>
>
> Yapf currently has more stars than black, but whether black has more 
> momentum or not, who can say.
>
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:14:44 AM UTC-4, Nick Sarbicki wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm just saying that if "As contributor, I can haz automatic code 
>>> formatter to lower the barrier" is precisely the story you want to solve, 
>>> then black may not be the only solution you want to consider deeply ;)
>>>
>>>
>> Jamie, sure, I wasn't responding directly to you about this, more to the 
>> general people arguing against blacks style choices. I would happily 
>> consider alternatives to black - although (without any formal research to 
>> back this claim) it does feel like black has the most community support.
>>
>> My point is mostly that if there is a growing community consistency 
>> through black then I'd be hesitant to choose another tool that goes against 
>> this.
>>
>>  
>>
>>> > Consistency in the end is the most important thing (even PEP8 agrees 
>>> > there). 
>>>
>>> Not sure where you got that impression: 
>>> https://pep8.org/#a-foolish-consistency-is-the-hobgoblin-of-little-minds 
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fpep8.org%2F%23a-foolish-consistency-is-the-hobgoblin-of-little-minds&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEySGgwf2j6XxUTgSju2qDS3z4zWw>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Pep8 clearly states consistency is less important then readability (it's 
>>> the 
>>> first thing mentioned and mentioned repeatedly that you can use as an 
>>> argument 
>>> to break consistency). And this is the primary advantage of black, since 
>>> readability is hard to quantify (and therefore lint or format) and I 
>>> think 
>>> this is where black has succeeded (by breaking consistency where it is 
>>> needed). 
>>> I mostly follow the discussion with interest from the sidelines, but 
>>> just 
>>> wanted to correct this consistency argument: if you want consistent 
>>> code, go 
>>> with autopep8, it'll keep your lines consistent below 79 characters and 
>>> quite 
>>> an unreadable mess. 
>>> -- 
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the correction Melvyn, you're right - aside from readability 
>> and backwards compatibility consistency is important.
>>
>> I'd also note the irony of using PEP8 to argue for consistency with a 
>> tool that is (at least on line length) inconsistent with PEP8. Although I 
>> really don't want to start a debate on line length.
>>
>

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