Hi all,

may I suggest that django-redis may be "promoted" to an official Django package 
under the Django GitHub organization? This would follow 
https://github.com/django/deps/blob/master/final/0007-official-projects.rst . 
The package would be pointed out explicitly in the Django docs but would be 
shipped outside of Django.

The benefit with 3rd party packets is their shorter release cycle. Which, in 
the context of django-redis could be beneficial .

/Markus

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, at 2:43 PM, 'Ivan Anishchuk' via Django developers  
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> I wouldn't say it's that complicated a setup. It would require a single 
> settings snippet -- just like the ones for other backends -- and, I 
> guess, a link to django-redis docs for more details (if django-redis is 
> what we recommend), maybe a quick explanation of what is CLIENT_CLASS 
> and other options. While it would add some maintenance burden 
> (occasionally checking whether any breaking changes were introduced in 
> the 3rd party package that require updating settings) it's still way 
> easier than adding a backend to django core.
> 
> While I agree with others about redis being popular and adding such a 
> backend in django being a good idea (I would love if that happened) I 
> understand the reasons for not doing it. A recommendation of a 3rd 
> party package + setup documentation, on the other hand, is pretty 
> simple thing to do.
> 
> If we want, it's also not very hard to provide 
> `django.core.cache.backend.redis.Redis Cache` that depends on 
> django-redis and is an alias for `django_redis.cache.RedisCache` -- 
> it's basically the way it works with DB backends, I don't see why it 
> wouldn't be a good idea for cache as well.
> 
> Ivan.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 04:02 Josh Smeaton <josh.smea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Celery explicitly document their integration with Redis though. I don't 
> > think we want to take over documenting the setup of a 3rd party package in 
> > Django.
> > 
> > On Thursday, 20 June 2019 11:00:27 UTC+10, Ivan Anishchuk wrote:
> >> How about making one of the third-party packages an optional dependency? 
> >> Celery, for example, does that: you can just install celery[redis] without 
> >> having to figure out what other packages you need to enable redis support.
> >> 
> >> Ivan.
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:44 AM Josh Smeaton <josh....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> There are already several 3rd party packages that implement redis as a 
> >>> django cache backend, for example https://github.com/niwinz/django-redis
> >>> 
> >>> We already have a base class for cache backends - and several 
> >>> implementing it (such as memcache). I don't think there's much benefit 
> >>> taking on another backend when it's already got very good support as an 
> >>> external package.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 01:14:25 UTC+10, Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I would like to work on Redis support in core, and I would like to 
> >>>> discuss proper solution for that.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Redis is getting so popular and almost every modern backend stack uses 
> >>>> it someway, therefore I think that supporting it as a cache backend in 
> >>>> core would make Django more appealing. A solution I'm proposing is to 
> >>>> extract base KV backend from current Memcached and extend it for both 
> >>>> Memcached and Redis, and this won't add many new code to the core. Also 
> >>>> we'll have base class for KV storage backends.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks.
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