Hi Adam,

thanks for picking this up so quickly.
I considered setting custom “through” models to set verbose name and 
__str__, but I currently can’t “afford” changing all m2m fields throught 
the application.

Here’s the feedback I got concerning the usability issues (e.g. for 
MediaItem_pieces_relation object (11773))

   - Some people thought “11773” was the number of objects to be deleted, 
   even though the UI clearly states something else – it isn’t obvious for 
   some people that relations have their own IDs
   - People asked where they could change the (then-deleted) relation to a 
   different object
   


*It can also help with debugging as the label appears in the default 
str/repr.*
Thanks for giving me that hint. It’s the __str__ method of models.Model. 
Changing the default string presentation may be dangerous and also too 
generic. It would make sense to define a custom to-string method in 
`create_many_to_many_intermediary_model` (fields/related.py)*.*
Instead of showing *MediaItem_pieces_relation object (11773),* something 
like “Media Item-Piece relation, ID: 11773) would be good*; *moreover, it 
may be a good idea to show the “from” model’s edit link to point people to 
the place where they can change this relation.

*My main question is, does this not trigger migrations on user projects?*
Good point. I just checked – interestingly, neither changing the verbose 
name nor the __str__ method triggers new migrations 🥳



Best regards
Julian

Adam Johnson schrieb am Montag, 26. Oktober 2020 um 19:56:15 UTC+1:

> Hi Julian
>
> It should be noted that you can improve the display today by creating 
> explicit through models. However this is more longwinded.
>
> This change does look like a neat usability improvement to me. It can also 
> help with debugging as the label appears in the default str/repr. My main 
> question is, does this not trigger migrations on user projects?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 16:28, Julian Klotz <jul...@pinabausch.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey there,
>>
>> here’s a little topic that impacts the usability of Django admin’s delete 
>> views.
>>
>> When deleting an object using django admin, you get a nice summary of all 
>> deleted objects.
>> I really like the overview, but the labels used to describe m2m relations 
>> that will be deleted aren't user-friendly at all:
>>
>> […]
>>
>>    - MediaItem-subseries-relation: MediaItem_sub_series_relation object 
>>    (11482)
>>    - MediaItem-piece-relation: MediaItem_pieces_relation object (11773)
>>
>> So I’d like to improve the labels a bit, using the from and to model’s 
>> verbose names. This can be easily accomplished by changing 
>> `create_many_to_many_intermediary_model` in fields/related.py.
>>
>> To be honest, I don’t know how to update the tests for something rooted 
>> deeply in Django’s core.Is anyone who is more competent than me interested 
>> in fixing this? It would greatly improve the “delete confirmation“ views.
>>
>> Here’s what I’ve got so for; it only fixes the model’s verbose name, not 
>> its string presentation.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Julian
>>
>>
>> […]
>>     to = make_model_tuple(to_model)[1]
>>     from_ = klass._meta.model_name
>>
>>     if isinstance(to_model, str):
>>         to_label = to
>>         to_label_plural = to
>>     else:
>>         to_label = to_model._meta.verbose_name
>>         to_label_plural = to_model._meta.verbose_name_plural
>>
>>     from_label = klass._meta.verbose_name
>>     from_label_plural = klass._meta.verbose_name_plural
>>
>>     if to == from_:
>>         to = 'to_%s' % to
>>         from_ = 'from_%s' % from_
>>
>>     meta = type('Meta', (), {
>>         'db_table': field._get_m2m_db_table(klass._meta),
>>         'auto_created': klass,
>>         'app_label': klass._meta.app_label,
>>         'db_tablespace': klass._meta.db_tablespace,
>>         'unique_together': (from_, to),
>>         'verbose_name': _('%(from)s-%(to)s relationship') % {'from': 
>> from_label, 'to': to_label},
>>         'verbose_name_plural': _('%(from)s-%(to)s relationships') % 
>> {'from': from_label_plural, 'to': to_label_plural},
>>         'apps': field.model._meta.apps,
>>     })
>>
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