For those who want more information on getting Django to serve your frontend assets, Aymeric wrote some good react-focussed blog posts: https://fractalideas.com/blog/making-react-and-django-play-well-together-hybrid-app-model/
On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 12:43, Adam Johnson <m...@adamj.eu> wrote: > > > Additionally, I also propose that the HTMl files served by wsgi.py are >> minified. >> > > This can already be done with e.g. > https://htmlmin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference.html#wsgi-middlware . > But normally HTML minification isn't particularly worth it since > gzip/brotli can compress it well already. > > On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 11:58, Diptesh Choudhuri < > diptesh.choudh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Correct. Also having to use third party packages (and even other >> languages!) for something so common and so useful feels incorrect somehow. >> >> Additionally, I also propose that the HTMl files served by wsgi.py are >> minified. This will be significantly more difficult to achieve since HTML >> pages are served on the fly. But I think the benefits would surely outweigh >> the maintenance costs these features bring. >> >> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:03:23 PM UTC+5:30 arvind...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> I didn't mean we should include things in Django. Even a workflow that >>> integrates with Django using manage.py commands will be super useful. >>> >>> Right now, I use Parcel + Tailwind (csspostprocessor mostly) + done >>> JavaScript. It's supposed to be simple. >>> >>> Even for this, I need to run to terminals (one for Django, one for the >>> frontend) or use something like Honcho with a procfile just so I can >>> develop in peace. Or I should hack gulp to run Django runserver for me. >>> >>> This is not documented anywhere officially but is a very very common >>> workflow even for small applications. >>> >>> I'm saying we do something to make this an easier process. >>> >>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* django-d...@googlegroups.com <django-d...@googlegroups.com> on >>> behalf of Dmitriy Sintsov <quest...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:59:15 PM >>> *To:* django-d...@googlegroups.com <django-d...@googlegroups.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: collectstatic command should output minified files >>> >>> There is one trouble: Webpack assumes it's own subtree of assets to >>> process, while Django loads assets from packages (Django apps) directories. >>> I still haven't seen a successful setup of webpack which would respect >>> loading assets from Django packages directories. >>> Another trouble, not everyone wants to carry node.js subsystem with it's >>> huge list of packages in their Python / Django project. >>> But there are changes that transpiling would not be required in the >>> future at all, after IE11 would fade to the past: >>> >>> https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/you-might-not-need-to-transpile-your-javascript-4d5e0a438ca/ >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 1:20 PM Adam Johnson <m...@adamj.eu> wrote: >>> >>> django-compressor is also popular: >>> https://pypi.org/project/django-compressor/ >>> >>> IMO we should not include anything in Django since JavaScript is a >>> separate language, and they have much better tools for minification and >>> bundling, and these tools can move faster than and orthogonally to Django. >>> And there are many options: Webpack, Parcel, Gulp, Grunt, Rollup, .. >>> >>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 10:06, quest...@gmail.com <quest...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> There is CSS / Javascript merge and compress package for Python: >>> https://github.com/miracle2k/webassets >>> which supports Django, Flask, Pyramid. >>> >>> See also: >>> >>> https://www.slideshare.net/__amol__/pyconit7-dukpy-webassets-free-yourself-from-nodejs-chains >>> https://pypi.org/project/dukpy/ >>> https://gist.github.com/amol-/0fd016bbb0c6c9a0fb6ab5bbedfcb7ad >>> https://github.com/rclmenezes/webassets-rollup >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:03:54 AM UTC+3 arvind...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>> I kinda like the idea of being able to run collectstatic and not have to >>> worry about setting up a full on frontend workflow for pretty much just >>> minification. It is a great default to have when this is all you need. >>> >>> That said, I’d be more interested in seeing something like an official >>> or a django-blessed unofficial default option similar to the >>> sprokects-rails gem for ruby. Allowing for a much more flexible and >>> extensive frontend pipeline without having to rely on an external task >>> runner. >>> >>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 7:24, Diptesh Choudhuri wrote: >>> >>> The default files copied to STATIC_ROOT when you run python manage.py >>> collectstatic should have two versions- file.js and file.min.js (similarly >>> for css files). As far as I can see, this happens only for the preinstalled >>> apps (like admin/actions.min.js) but not for user installed apps. >>> Serbing minified static files is important for all production >>> environments for pretty much everyone who uses vanilla django. Though there >>> are packages out there to do this, I feel it is important enough and has >>> enough use cases to be added to the django core. >>> >>> I can start working on this if it is accepted. >>> Let me know what you think! >>> >>> Best >>> Diptesh Choudhuri >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/5bcb1522-3486-452e-b061-2cce2bb6d2c9n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/5bcb1522-3486-452e-b061-2cce2bb6d2c9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/b4ee304c-6861-417c-a20c-bf79b5e2d9efn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/b4ee304c-6861-417c-a20c-bf79b5e2d9efn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Adam >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/django-developers/dZDRivF29po/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAMyDDM2xcYM9M1AB-ZK47V4JHH0mNoYvXntz8-wrbzxdOJ1QFg%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAMyDDM2xcYM9M1AB-ZK47V4JHH0mNoYvXntz8-wrbzxdOJ1QFg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAC5UD1xbCfqv-sLs1p%3D%2BgnVp8k454VtOwP80qAw3H1y7WBUuWw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAC5UD1xbCfqv-sLs1p%3D%2BgnVp8k454VtOwP80qAw3H1y7WBUuWw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/5e56ab9e-6343-4731-918f-697ad438f532n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/5e56ab9e-6343-4731-918f-697ad438f532n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > Adam > -- Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. 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