I think deprecating it is a good idea. I think it's actually a small
footgun - I've seen it used to restrict access to non-admin functionality,
when `user_passes_test` would be appropriate. In the case I found it, it
made adding tests trickier than it should have been.

Ian

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 21:51, Timothy McCurrach <tim.mccurr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > It seems like a good idea. However, it leads us to another question. Do
> we really need the is_staff field on the User Model if it is deprecated?
>
> User.is_staff is still used, just from Adminsite.has_permission instead:
>
> https://github.com/django/django/blob/main/django/contrib/admin/sites.py#L196
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:45 PM Matthew Pava <matthew.p...@iss.com> wrote:
>
>> > Thoughts on deprecating it?
>>
>> It seems like a good idea. However, it leads us to another question. Do
>> we really need the is_staff field on the User Model if it is deprecated?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* django-developers@googlegroups.com <
>> django-developers@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Timothy McCurrach
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 3:22 PM
>> *To:* django-developers@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Difference between AdminSite.admin_view and
>> staff_member_required?
>>
>>
>>
>> staff_member_required feels like a bit of a relic from the past:
>>
>> - It looks like before a massive refactor of the admin that happened 12
>> years ago (
>> https://github.com/django/django/commit/a19ed8aea395e8e07164ff7d85bd7dff2f24edca
>> <https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=github.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9naXRodWIuY29tL2RqYW5nby9kamFuZ28vY29tbWl0L2ExOWVkOGFlYTM5NWU4ZTA3MTY0ZmY3ZDg1YmQ3ZGZmMmYyNGVkY2E=&i=NWVjN2YxNzUxNGEyNzMxNmMyMGRkZGU1&t=YkNVTDFoOEQ4dEdQdU1PYW9WWlJ0R0R0Y2ZGN0hRYkRiT0FkNTRkaU1Ocz0=&h=64eb5f1d05c6477aa783f14819c9eebe>)
>> staff_member_required played a similar role to what Adminsite.admin_view
>> does now (checks permissions and redirects to login if appropriate). Before
>> the refactor, all of the relevant views were wrapped with
>> staff_member_required.
>> - The above commit introduced AdminSite which has its own
>> 'has_permissions' method. Adminsite.root (which was the old get_urls)
>> called self.has_permissions before calling any other views, so
>> staff_member_required was now no longer really required.
>> - staff_member_required did however continue to be used in the admindocs
>> app (which was now split off into its own app).
>> - Adminsite.root was eventually replaced with get_urls and the call to
>> has_permissions  was moved into `Adminsite.admin_view` (which also does a
>> few other things: adds csrf protection, and deals with caching)
>> - Over time staff_member_required became simpler and simpler as things
>> like user_passes_test were introduced, and there was no need to repeat
>> logic.
>> - It's now just a very specific version of `user_passes_test` and is only
>> used internally one place - the admindocs app.
>>
>>
>> Tobias - In terms of permissions and redirecting; the behaviour of
>> admin_view and `staff_member_required` are very similar. The differences
>> are that:
>>  i) admin_view defers to Adminsite.has_permission to do the actual
>> checking of permissions (so if that method is overwritten the behaviour
>> will change)
>>  ii) admin_view does a whole load of other things that all admin views
>> are going to need (mentioned above).
>>  iii) They have slightly different arguments you can pass in to modify
>> the behaviour
>>
>> If you are decorating a view of ModelAdmin, or AdminSite you should use
>> admin_view - as described in the docs under get_urls.
>>
>> Since staff_member_required is more or less a very specific version of
>> user_passes_test designed for admin views, it's use-case seems pretty
>> niche. If you were making an app like admindocs which behaves like an
>> extension of the admin app, without actually being part of the admin app
>> you could use it then, but I'm struggling to think of any other time you
>> would want to use it though.
>>
>> I think there's an argument to be made for deprecating it completely:
>>  - It's only used in one place internally, and the wider use case seems
>> pretty niche.
>>  - user_passes_test can do the same thing and seems to be the standard
>> way of doing this kind of thing anyway.
>>  - user_passes_test with a suitably named test argument would also be
>> more explicit, since the login_url and redirect_field_name would need to be
>> explicitly stated.
>>
>>  Definitely the documentation should be updated though. Thoughts on
>> deprecating it?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 7:08 PM Tobias Bengfort <tobias.bengf...@posteo.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/03/2021 18.03, Carlton Gibson wrote:
>> > Do you want to open a PR with suggested changes as a focus for
>> discussion?
>>
>> I would open a PR that improves the docs, but I still don't understand
>> the difference, so I wouldn't know what to write.
>>
>> The other alternative would be remove one of them, but at this point
>> that is probably too drastic.
>>
>> tobias
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