#35788: Order By using column number with Annotated fields -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: Adrian Garcia | Owner: (none) Type: | Status: closed Cleanup/optimization | Component: Database layer | Version: 5.1 (models, ORM) | Severity: Normal | Resolution: needsinfo Keywords: order_by, annotate, | Triage Stage: column number, | Unreviewed Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0 Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0 Easy pickings: 0 | UI/UX: 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Comment (by Adrian Garcia):
The [https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.4/en/select.html#:~:text=use%20of%20column%20positions%20is%20deprecated%20because%20the%20syntax%20has%20been%20removed%20from%20the%20sql%20standard.%20 MySQL documentation] references its removal from the standard. Additionally, [https://www.red-gate.com/hub/product-learning/sql-prompt /avoid-using-constants-in-an-order-by-clause this article] specifically references that the use of constants was defined in the ANSI SQL-92 standard, and subsequently removed in ANSI SQL-99, but goes on to say that most RDBMS vendors still support this practice. All DBs that Django currently supports (and many that are supported via third party libraries) appear to honor the deprecated column numbers, and given how long ago this change was made it's likely they will continue to support this. It's mostly the inconsistency of `order_by` using an integer constant _only_ with annotated fields that bothers me, rather than any risk of the feature suddenly breaking, which is why I offered to make the change if that's acceptable. ---- Since these older versions of the SQL spec can be found online for free, I was able to find the actual definitions. From page pages 371 and 372 of [https://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~shadow/sql/sql1992.txt ANSI SQL-92]: {{{ <order by clause> ::= ORDER BY <sort specification list> <sort specification list> ::= <sort specification> [ { <comma> <sort specification> }... ] <sort specification> ::= <sort key> [ <collate clause > ] [ <ordering specification> ] <sort key> ::= <column name> | <unsigned integer> <ordering specification> ::= ASC | DESC ... 10)If ORDER BY is specified, then each <sort specification> in the <order by clause> shall identify a column of T. Case: a) If a <sort specification> contains a <column name>, then T shall contain exactly one column with that <column name> and the <sort specification> identifies that column. b) If a <sort specification> contains an <unsigned integer>, then the <unsigned integer> shall be greater than 0 and not greater than the degree of T. The <sort specification> identifies the column of T with the ordinal position specified by the <unsigned integer>. }}} From page 651 of [[https://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~len/sql1999.pdf ANSI SQL-99]] {{{ <order by clause> ::= ORDER BY <sort specification list> <sort specification list> ::= <sort specification> [ { <comma> <sort specification> }... ] <sort specification> ::= <sort key> [ <collate clause> ] [ <ordering specification> ] <sort key> ::= <value expression> <ordering specification> ::= ASC | DESC ... NOTE 287 – A previous version of ISO/IEC 9075 allows <sort specification> to be a <signed in- teger> to denote a column reference of a column of T. That facility no longer exists. See Annex E, ‘‘Incompatibilities with ISO/IEC 9075:1992 and ISO/IEC 9075-4:1996’’. }}} -- Ticket URL: <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/35788#comment:2> Django <https://code.djangoproject.com/> The Web framework for perfectionists with deadlines. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django updates" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-updates+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-updates/0107019234983004-63a53695-20aa-48ae-8345-f3209b9f3e83-000000%40eu-central-1.amazonses.com.