Ok, I'll take a look at the _pre_save() mechanism. By the way, isn't
that one of the things changing in magic-removal branch?


I still wonder about the default values question though.

I tried to create a Django object in an interactive Python shell, and
the fields are indeed filled with default values. So somewhere in the
form/manipulator mechanism there are unnecessary checks which prevent
this from happening and raise errors instead.

I'd like to research and maybe make a patch for this unless the current
behavior is intended with a good reason.

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