On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Andre Terra <andrete...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alright, do what you will. Whatever floats your boat..
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Matt Schinckel <m...@schinckel.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2011 12:07:44 PM UTC+9:30, Andre Terra (airstrike)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Until you install some third party app that accesses
>>> User.objects.all() and then suddenly nothing works as it's supposed
>>> to.
>>
>> Why wouldn't it? The User subclasses will still appear in the
>> User.objects.all() queryset.
>>>
>>> You can access the User object from its related UserProfile instance
>>> and do everything you say from there instead of breaking the
>>> convention. Nobody's stopping you from writing an abstract
>>> BaseUserProfile model with an FK to User and custom UserProfile
>>> subclasses. I just don't see any advantages in going down that path.
>>
>>  As I said, 'at this stage', it all seems to be working out okay. I have
>> plenty of 3rd party apps, and even some of my own, that access User, and
>> they still work with sub-classes.
>>>
>>> Because how will you access every user if you ever need to? What if
>>> someone gets promoted? How will you separate view from model logic?
>>> Are you going to rewrite forms for every user class? That's probably
>>> going to be hard to maintain.
>>
>>  You can still access User.objects.all(). I even have a way to access the
>> sub-classes (downcasting) when fetching all users.
>>>
>>> FWIW, profiles are the canonical solution. They are also the only
>>> elegant solution, at least until the app loading branch lands on
>>> trunk, which should then allow you to register a different class as
>>> User. But that won't happen any time soon..
>>
>> See, I don't see them as an elegant solution. Having to do:
>>     user.get_profile().date_of_birth
>> instead of:
>>     user.date_of_birth
>> irks me every time I write the code. UserProfile has always felt to me
>> that it was a patchy way of extending User.
>> Matt.
>>

Not being able to define your own User model is easily my least
favorite thing about django. User.get_profile() is an antipattern.

I hope we get the ability to define our own User model makes it into
contrib.auth at some point (lazy loaded)

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