Ok, ok.  I now have a Ubuntu/server with a Ubuntu desktop running using 
oracle vm virtualbox.   I know almost nothing about Linux.  I don't even 
know how to ssh to this beast sitting in front of me.  I  hope this is a 
start...

On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:19:57 AM UTC-7, Marcin wrote:
>
> You don't have a computer that you can develop on at all? How are you 
> writing this email? Developing over ssh is going to be a huge pain.
>
> Now, you *maybe* can use the runserver command - if you do add the --help 
> switch it will tell you how to run it to bind to a particular interface and 
> port. It maybe that you can bind it to a port on the localhost interface 
> (and then tunnel that over ssh), or you may be able to have your host 
> allocate you specific ports which you can use to run any kind of web server 
> you like. 
>
> While runserver shouldn't be used for production, I have used it to 
> diagnose specific problems in the production environment, which inevitably 
> will differ from development when using a shared host. This is, of course, 
> fairly insecure, and could even be illegal depending on your data 
> protection obligations. 
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM, ecs1749 <ecs...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> I don't have a local machine I can use to learn Django - just a personal 
>> acct from a shared host.  The question I kept asking was:  How do I get 
>> into admin and follow the tutorial without the development server because 
>> the tutorial doesn't tell me that.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 3, 2012 11:13:53 PM UTC-7, Daniel Roseman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 4 September 2012 03:32:08 UTC+1, ecs1749 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply.  Yes, I saw that message.  I am a bit lost where 
>>>> to go next if I completely ignore that tutorial regarding doing admin from 
>>>> the development server (which I don't have).  Do I dive into tutorial   #3 
>>>> and hope that it will pick up the admin stuff later when it gets to talk 
>>>> about wsgi?  Or is there a "here's what you do if you don't have a 
>>>> development server" tutorial somewhere?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You should not be doing the tutorial - or any development - on your 
>>> server. Install Django locally and do it there, then deploy when you are 
>>> ready and not before.
>>>
>>> However, you are wrong to assume that the admin console has anything to 
>>> do with the development server - it works just fine with any server.
>>> --
>>> DR.
>>>
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