That makes sense. Thank you.

--M

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 8:05:21 AM UTC-6, knbk wrote:
>
> >>> uf = UsersForm(u)
>
> Here you are passing the user instance as if it were the POST data. The 
> form expects a dictionary or None as the first argument. `form.is_bound` 
> simply checks `data is not None`, which is True in this case.
>
> If you want a bound form, you should pass a dictionary with the 
> appropriate values as the first argument, and pass the user instance as the 
> `instance=` argument. Forms are meant to handle user input in a POST 
> request -- that's why it only accepts a dictionary such as request.POST as 
> the input data. 
>
> On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 2:53:02 PM UTC+1, Vijay Khemlani wrote:
>>
>> Well, it's not supposed to be bound if you don't pass any data to it
>>
>> the "instance" in the ModelForm (if i remember correctly) just sets the 
>> initial values for the fields when you render the form in HTML and modifies 
>> that instance when you call "save" on the ModelForm.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 1:29 AM, Michael Molloy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your help. I apologize for the typo, but I am calling 
>>> is_valid() with the parenthesis:
>>>
>>>
>>> >>> uf = UsersForm(u)
>>>
>>> >>> uf.is_valid()
>>>
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>
>>>  File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
>>>
>>>  File 
>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib64/python3.3/site-packages/django/forms/forms.py"
>>> , line 184, in is_valid
>>>
>>>    return self.is_bound and not self.errors
>>>
>>>  File 
>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib64/python3.3/site-packages/django/forms/forms.py"
>>> , line 176, in errors
>>>
>>>    self.full_clean()
>>>
>>>  File 
>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib64/python3.3/site-packages/django/forms/forms.py"
>>> , line 392, in full_clean
>>>
>>>    self._clean_fields()
>>>
>>>  File 
>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib64/python3.3/site-packages/django/forms/forms.py"
>>> , line 401, in _clean_fields
>>>
>>>    value = field.widget.value_from_datadict(self.data, self.files, self.
>>> add_prefix(name))
>>>
>>>  File 
>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib64/python3.3/site-packages/django/forms/widgets.py"
>>> , line 223, in value_from_datadict
>>>
>>>     return data.get(name, None)
>>>
>>> AttributeError: 'Users' object has no attribute 'get'
>>>
>>>
>>> >>> uf.is_valid()
>>>
>>> True
>>>
>>>
>>> As for creating the form instance with the instance keyword, I tried 
>>> that first as I saw it in the materials I was reading, but it doesn't work. 
>>> Note the code below. is_bound = False if I use instance=u. If I just pass 
>>> the Users instance without the 'instance' keyword, is_bound returns True.
>>>
>>> >>> u = Users()
>>>
>>> >>> u.email = '[email protected]'
>>>
>>> >>> uf = UsersForm(u)
>>>
>>> >>> uf.is_bound
>>>
>>> True
>>>
>>> >>> uf = UsersForm(instance=u)
>>>
>>> >>> uf.is_bound
>>>
>>> False
>>>
>>>
>>> --M
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 10:16:38 PM UTC-6, Vijay Khemlani wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "First, why does uf.is_valid() return"
>>>>
>>>> because you called "uf.is_valid" (note the lack of parenthesis), that's 
>>>> just a reference to the method and does not call it.
>>>>
>>>> "Second, why does uf.save() return that stacktrace the first time I 
>>>> call it, but the second time I call it, the object saves? "
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know ModelForm subclasses take a dictionary as a first 
>>>> parameter, not the object itself, you would need to do something like this:
>>>>
>>>> uf = UsersForm(instance=u)
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why it works the second time (if it does indeed work)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Sergiy Khohlov <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I missed. You have valid unknown at the start. Why are you not 
>>>>> used django user model and author? Study purpose ,?
>>>>> 3 січ. 2016 05:53 "Michael Molloy" <[email protected]> пише:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what could be wrong with the database settings. If I just 
>>>>>> create an instance of the model and save it, it saves to the database:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jyOjeZShpXU/VoibBXC7gPI/AAAAAAAAAFU/WeJ9TBxQemQ/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2016-01-02%2Bat%2B9.52.18%2BPM.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> u.email = '[email protected]'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> u.save()
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jyOjeZShpXU/VoibBXC7gPI/AAAAAAAAAFU/WeJ9TBxQemQ/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2016-01-02%2Bat%2B9.52.18%2BPM.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 9:48:39 PM UTC-6, Sergiy Khohlov 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is_valid is working. You have 
>>>>>>> problem with save. Check database setting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3 січ. 2016 04:18 "Michael Molloy" <[email protected]> пише:
>>>>>>> >ve
>>>>>>> > This is running in Openshift with Python 3.3 and Django 1.8.4
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Here's my model:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > class Users(models.Model):
>>>>>>> >     first_nm = models.CharField('First Name', max_length=100)
>>>>>>> >     last_nm = models.CharField('Last Name', max_length=100)
>>>>>>> >     email = models.CharField('Email Address', max_length=200, 
>>>>>>> unique=True)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Here's my form:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > class UsersForm(forms.ModelForm):
>>>>>>> >     class Meta:
>>>>>>> >         model = Users
>>>>>>> >         fields = ['first_nm', 'last_nm', 'email']
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > When I run the shell inside Openshift, this is what happens:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Python 3.3.2 (default, Mar 20 2014, 20:25:51) 
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > [GCC 4.4.6 20120305 (Red Hat 4.4.6-4)] on linux
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more 
>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > (InteractiveConsole)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> from django.conf import settings
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> from package.forms import UsersForm
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> from package.models import Users
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> u = Users()
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> u.first_nm = 'First'
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> u.last_nm = 'Last'
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> u.email = '[email protected]'
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> uf = UsersForm(u)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> uf.is_bound
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > True
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> uf.is_valid
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > <bound method UsersForm.is_valid of <UsersForm bound=True, 
>>>>>>> valid=Unknown, fields=(first_nm;last_nm;email)>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> uf.save()
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >   File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >   File 
>>>>>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib/python3.3/site-packages/Django-1.8.4-py3.3.egg/django/forms/models.py",
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> line 463, in save
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     construct=False)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >   File 
>>>>>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib/python3.3/site-packages/Django-1.8.4-py3.3.egg/django/forms/models.py",
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> line 84, in save_instance
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     if form.errors:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >   File 
>>>>>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib/python3.3/site-packages/Django-1.8.4-py3.3.egg/django/forms/forms.py",
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> line 176, in errors
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     self.full_clean()
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >   File 
>>>>>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib/python3.3/site-packages/Django-1.8.4-py3.3.egg/django/forms/forms.py",
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> line 392, in full_clean
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     self._clean_fields()
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >   File 
>>>>>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib/python3.3/site-packages/Django-1.8.4-py3.3.egg/django/forms/forms.py",
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> line 401, in _clean_fields
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     value = field.widget.value_from_datadict(self.data, 
>>>>>>> self.files, self.add_prefix(name))
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >   File 
>>>>>>> "/var/lib/openshift/5678c24389f5cff0330001cd/python/virtenv/venv/lib/python3.3/site-packages/Django-1.8.4-py3.3.egg/django/forms/widgets.py",
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> line 223, in value_from_datadict
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     return data.get(name, None)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > AttributeError: 'Users' object has no attribute 'get'
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> uf.save()
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > <Users: Users object>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > First, why does uf.is_valid() return 
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > <bound method UsersForm.is_valid of <UsersForm bound=True, 
>>>>>>> valid=Unknown, fields=(first_nm;last_nm;email)>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > the first time I call it, but on subsequent calls, uf.is_valid() 
>>>>>>> returns True?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Second, why does uf.save() return that stacktrace the first time I 
>>>>>>> call it, but the second time I call it, the object saves? 
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Third, even though the Users object saves, the only value in the 
>>>>>>> database for that row is the primary key. Neither the names nor the 
>>>>>>> email 
>>>>>>> field is saved.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I'm working through the Django Unchained book, and I'm also 
>>>>>>> looking at the Django tutorial on djangoproject.com, and it looks 
>>>>>>> to me like I'm doing everything that I'm supposed to, but obviously I'm 
>>>>>>> missing something.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --Michael
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
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