On 18/08/2023 12:34 pm, Vitor Freitas wrote:
Hi Mike,On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 4:30 AM Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au> wrote:Found a great article by Adam Johnson written in February ... https://adamj.eu/tech/2023/02/23/migrate-django-postgresql-ci-fields-case-insensitive-collation/This is a great reference. It helped me out with the migration from postgresql ci fields to db collations.Everything about this is new for me as well. I'm sure the db collation strategy is more powerful and I can see the benefits.However, the postgresql ci fields were way easier to implement.
I agree
Right now I'm testing it out on a smaller project. One problem that I'm currently facing is that exposing some fields that have the db_collation configuration to django-filters or to Django Admin search parameters are causing an exception:NotSupportedError nondeterministic collations are not supported for LIKE
Yes. I got the same error ... https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/33901 closed Bug (fixed)From the discussion in that ticket I got the impression that maybe I should postpone using collations until after I upgrade from Django 3.2 to 4.2.
I was using a very similar collation. I have already removed my CI fields so I won't put them back.I manually (__iexact) check to prevent duplicate names for users and companies and the sorting is not critical for me at the moment.
I think I'll avoid collations for now. I'm running out of brainspace and don't have the time to do the exhaustive research needed to correctly define a bug for a new ticket. I'll press on with workarounds until I'm absolutely forced to upgrade to 4.2 and hope that some generous soul has sorted it out by then.
The fact is it is new for PostgreSQL as well as Django so it isn't surprising to see such wrinkles.
Cheers Mike
This is the collation that I'm using: CreateCollation( "case_insensitive", provider="icu", locale="und-u-ks-level2", deterministic=False, )Anyway, all the icu / und-u-ks stuff look a little bit confusing. It would be good to have some guidelines or some quick recipes on the docs that would help us out making the migration :-)Kind regards, Vitor Covers all the bases. Thank you Adam Cheers Mike On 7/08/2023 12:28 pm, Mike Dewhirst wrote:On 6/08/2023 9:17 pm, Chetan Ganji wrote: Thanks Chetan I have seen that 'icu' and 'und-whatever...' in various places on the web - so it seems to be spreading - but I haven't had the brainspace to understand it yet. I'll try an experiment with provider='C' and locale='C' because that is how most of my databases are already established. If that passes my tests I might move on to other things. From what I can see, PostgreSQL are likely to deprecate citext as inelegant. That would be why Django has deprecated it. Thanks again. MikeCheck this out. https://gist.github.com/hleroy/2f3c6b00f284180da10ed9d20bf9240a # According to Django documentation, it’s preferable to use non-deterministic collations # instead of the citext extension for Postgres > 12. # Example migation to create the case insensitive collation class Migration(migrations.Migration): operations = [ CreateCollation( 'case_insensitive', provider='icu', locale='und-u-ks-level2', deterministic=False ) ] # Example model using the new db_collation parameter introduced with Django 3.2 class Tag(models.Model): name = models.CharField(max_length=50, db_collation='case_insensitive') class Meta: ordering = ['name'] def __str__(self): return self.name Regards, Chetan Ganji +91-900-483-4183 ganji.che...@gmail.com http://ryucoder.in On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 12:32 PM Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au> wrote: On 5/08/2023 7:58 pm, Chetan Ganji wrote:Hi Mike RE: The primary use case is to establish case-insensitivity when checking names - including usernames, company names and abbreviations/acronyms. I dont know anything about db_collation.Me neitherBelow 4 lookups should solve most common scenarios.Actually that was how I did it originally. I switched to using the PostgreSQL CI field because it is all done in the database - much faster - and my code is much reduced and therefore fewer possibilities for bugs etc. Judging from the Django release notes and the PostgreSQL docs there should be a straightforward answer to my question. Researching the correct answer is complex enough to make me ask here first. Cheers Mikehttps://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.2/ref/models/querysets/#field-lookups Regards, Chetan Ganji +91-900-483-4183 ganji.che...@gmail.com http://ryucoder.in On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 1:35 PM Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au> wrote: The following warning triggered a bit of research which looks like a significant amount of study will be required to find the collation needed ... django.contrib.postgres.fields.CICharField is deprecated. Support for it (except in historical migrations) will be removed in Django 5.1. HINT: Use CharField(db_collation="…") with a case-insensitive non-deterministic collation instead. Does anyone have experience they would like to share? What replaces that ellipsis? The primary use case is to establish case-insensitivity when checking names - including usernames, company names and abbreviations/acronyms. Maybe there is a better way to handle that? This is my typical PostgreSQL database spec ... CREATE DATABASE xxxx WITH OWNER = miked ENCODING = 'UTF8' LC_COLLATE = 'C' LC_CTYPE = 'C' TABLESPACE = pg_default CONNECTION LIMIT = -1 IS_TEMPLATE = False; Many thanks for any help Cheers Mike-- You received this message because you are subscribed tothe Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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