django-simple-history is close to what we need. The one issue I see
(so far) is that it does not support tables that are created behind
the scenes by django to handle one to many relations that do not have
models. Does anyone know how to maintain history on those?

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 2:48 PM Larry Martell <larry.mart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, I have not see django-simple-history - thanks for the pointer - will 
> check it out.
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:02 PM Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Just thinking about it again ... you could look at the Admin source to see 
>> how it is working now and perhaps find a way to include the missing info in 
>> a pre-save signal.
>>
>> Also, I found django-simple-history online but I suppose you have seen that 
>> already.
>>
>> M
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au>
>> Date: 16/12/23 12:38 (GMT+10:00)
>> To: django-users@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: logging admin accesses
>>
>> You seem to be asking for a full history 'system'.
>>
>> I think the Admin history exists to show a bit of history with a link to go 
>> back to the change form where it happened.
>>
>> Full history needs to be specified fairly carefully so it doesn't bog the 
>> system down. For example, every write costs a performance hit. Also, how 
>> resilient must it be to cope with database schema changes? How is it going 
>> to be used in practice? What are the benefits and are they worth the effort.
>>
>> I have worked through some of this in my current project and decided to 
>> create separate 'mirror' tables for only the critical information and 
>> automate data collection for others in a plain text field for archival.
>>
>> It can be quite open ended and might reward very aggressive specification.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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>> (Unsigned mail from my phone)
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Larry Martell <larry.mart...@gmail.com>
>> Date: 16/12/23 01:47 (GMT+10:00)
>> To: django-users@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: logging admin accesses
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:49 PM Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Top posting because of phone email client.
>>>
>>> Have you seen the Admin history? Might be already logged for you.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, this is useful, but it does not seem to be logging everything. We 
>> have a custom user admin page that updates a few models in addition to User: 
>> UserInfo, UserExtendProduct, and UserRole. If I add a new user I see this:
>>
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+---------+
>> | object_id | object_repr | action_flag | change_message                     
>>                                                                              
>>             | content_type_id | user_id |
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+---------+
>> | 3         | x           |           1 | [{"added": {}}, {"added": {"name": 
>> "user info", "object": "x"}}, {"added": {"name": "user extend product", 
>> "object": "x"}}] |               4 |       1 |
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+---------+
>>
>> It shows that a row in User, UserInfo, and UserExtendProdct were added, but 
>> it does not show what was added to the latter 2, and it does not show that 
>> rows were added to UserRole.
>>
>> When I modify a user and cause UserRole to be updated I see this:
>>
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+----------------+-----------------+---------+
>> | object_id | object_repr | action_flag | change_message | content_type_id | 
>> user_id |
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+----------------+-----------------+---------+
>> | 3         | x           |           2 | []             |               4 | 
>>       1 |
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+----------------+-----------------+---------+
>>
>> No info about that row being added. If I cause a row in UserRole to be 
>> deleted I get the exact same entry, so I cannot distinguish between an add 
>> and a delete and I can't see what was added or deleted.
>>
>> But if I cause a row in UserInfo or UserExtendProduct to be added I see this:
>>
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+---------+
>> | object_id | object_repr | action_flag | change_message                     
>>                                                                              
>>             | content_type_id | user_id |
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+---------+
>> | 3         | x           |           1 | [{"added": {}}, {"added": {"name": 
>> "user info", "object": "x"}}, {"added": {"name": "user extend product", 
>> "object": "x"}}] |               4 |       1 |
>> +-----------+-------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------+---------+
>>
>> Shows an add, but not what was added.
>>
>> So my questions are:
>> -how can I get it to show the details of what was added or changed
>> -why are updates to UserInfo and UserExtendProduct shown, but updates to 
>> UserRole are not?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Larry Martell <larry.mart...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: 15/12/23 06:44 (GMT+10:00)
>>> To: django-users@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: logging admin accesses
>>>
>>> Is there a way to capture all admin changes (add, change, delete). I have 
>>> some middleware that gets called on any admin add, change, or delete, but I 
>>> have not figured out a way to capture specifically what was done, something 
>>> like: model, PK, action, e.g.
>>>
>>> user, 12, change, first name changed
>>> user, 15, add
>>> user, 24, delete
>>>
>>> I am looking for something generic that will work for all models under 
>>> admin control

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