I've just posted over in django-dev that I'm intersted in taking over
maintenance of this branch ... I'm not to skilled with subversion...
but I'm going to go ahead and give it a shot, and attempt over the
next two weeks ( out of town for a few days on vacation ) to merge the
changes to the trunk into this branch.

Once I get what I think is a proper merge of the newest code... I'll
inquire about the next step of how to it committed ... wish me luck :)

On May 2, 10:41 am, brutimus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've also seen a lot of demand for the multi-db support; however, I do
> understand the time that this would take to get updated, stabilized,
> and worked into trunk.  I have several apps I would like to work on
> where I need to pull data from a couple legacy databases
> (datawarehouse type dbs), but this proves difficult.  To this point,
> I've been a little hesitant to run the multi-db branch, but I may have
> to look at it and see how that works out.
>
> If anyone who is capable puts time into getting the multi-db branch up
> to par and added into trunk, I know many people would be very
> thankful.
>
> Thanks, Sean
>
> On May 2, 12:22 am, Brian Luft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Russ,
>
> > Thanks for the detailed response and I agree with all of your
> > sentiments.  You're doing a great job and you are a tremendous asset
> > to this list.  Keep up the great work.
>
> > Having been a committer to other framework projects, I understand the
> > constant pressure to integrate feature X,Y, and Z.  I'm totally on
> > board with the direction the core devs are taking and have faith that
> > the future will see some exciting new developments.
>
> > I'm open to any or all solutions to this problem.  If I can use a
> > compact pattern or drop in a metaclass somewhere that will enable this
> > functionality then I can certainly live with that.   No need to put in
> > man hours maintaining a branch if the solution is a simple tweak to an
> > existing setup.
>
> > You're right - "unfortunate" is a value judgement and I really meant
> > it would be unfortunate if lack of a feature drove people away.  Of
> > course that happens anyway (what no ajax support? what no clunky
> > templating engine? i pass...) - you know the story.  It is very
> > fortunate that we have a solid framework being driven by talented,
> > dedicated people I can tell you that much :)
>
> > Cheers
> > -Brian
>
> > On May 1, 9:37 pm, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On 5/2/07, Brian Luft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Although I've successfully used the multi-db branch experimentally, it
> > > > looks to be getting more and more out of date with the django trunk.
> > > ...
> > > > Just for the sake of lively discussion, I would go so far as to say
> > > > that only being able to access a singledatabaseper project is an
> > > > unfortunate limitation and could be a deal-breaker for those
> > > > evaluating Django for their own use.  I'm sure there are many
>
> > > ..
>
> > > Limitation; sure. Unfortunate - that's a value judgement.
>
> > > The recent Rails/Twitter kurfuffle demonstrates that multi-db support
> > > can be very significant for a certain users. However, my time (and the
> > > time of the other devs, for that matter) is very limited, and our own
> > > itches will always take priority. I have many other features that I
> > > want to see in Django before multi-db (aggregate clauses, schema
> > > evolution, and model inheritance to name just 3). Multi-db just isn't
> > > a priority for any of the ways that I use Django, so there isn't much
> > > incentive for me to spend my time on it.
>
> > > The fact that a branch exists demonstrates that the core devs are
> > > willing to entertain the idea of multi-db as a feature. However, it
> > > needs somebody to step up to the plate and finish the job. Ultimately,
> > > this means submitting a branch in a condition suitable for merge back
> > > into the trunk. What does this mean in practice?
>
> > > - A branch that is up to date with trunk
> > > - Evidence that the branch has been used by real users, and bugs have
> > > been found and fixed
> > > - The existence of test cases that integrate with existing test framework.
> > > - Offering to look after the feature for the medium term.
>
> > > Once you can convince the core devs that these conditions are met, you
> > > should find the merge back happens pretty quickly - and voila!
> > > multi-db in the trunk.
>
> > > Now, before we are flooded with "give me SVN access and I'll do it!"
> > > requests. We aren't going to give SVN access to just anybody that
> > > stands up. We have been down this path, and so far, it seems to be the
> > > single easiest way to make sure you never hear from someone ever again
> > > (witness themultiplecontributors that have offered to finish
> > > schema-evolution). Before you get SVN access, we want to see a track
> > > record of contributing first.
>
> > > Getting started doesn't require access to SVN. If you are interested
> > > in multi-db, start working and submit patches. If you demonstrate that
> > > you are in for the long haul, you will get SVN access for that branch
> > > to make your life a little easier.
>
> > > So - if you want multi-db (or any other feature, for that matter), have 
> > > at it!
>
> > > Yours,
> > > Russ Magee %-)


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