> Just so I have this right, the as-yet-unspoken implication in this
> suggestion is that nearly 4,000 people subscribe to a new list, update
> any email rules they may have set up, etc. In addition, we fragment
> the development mailing list archive into a "2005-2008" archive and a
> "2008-present" archive. As such, we also chop any threads that may be
> in progress during the move, hoping they'll continue without incident
> on the new list. And that's not considering the hassle of trying to
> actually follow those threads later, given that it'd span two separate
> archives.
>
> Interesting. So now we're considering asking over 10,000 people to
> subscribe to up to two new mailing lists, just to continue discussions
> they have happily today. And again, we have the whole multiple-archive
> problem and hacked-up threads. More to the point, neither of those
> would solve the problem, since the issue here isn't that
> "django-users" isn't descriptive enough; it's that "django-developers"
> is also descriptive enough. If you're registering new names, why not
> register a new name for the mailing list actually experiencing the
> problem?
>
> Now, I'm admit: I do realize that Django 1.0 involves some necessary
> backwards-incompatibilities. But should mailing list subscriptions
> really be added to that list? Troubling nearly 15,000 people to change
> 3-year-old habits because a few people are annoyed by off-topic emails
> every other day (or so) just doesn't seem worth it to me.

I just thought I'd drop a note here - Google Groups allow existing
groups to be renamed, further more groups emails can stay as they were
or changed as well to a new one. All this retaining the history, and
subscribers. So it would merely make it an issue to people who are
sending emails initially. To me thats not a big one at all.

So the fact that you say we have to  force nearly 15000 people to
change is a rather void argument. I'm pretty sure the people who use
django-users mainly do it through the web interface - so to them it
would only mean the changing of a web address. Everybodies
subscriptions would stay in tact, they would just have to send to a
slightly different web address.

There are going to be some initial confusions, yes, but considering it
all I think it'll do more good, than bad.

> As always, one man's opinion.
Wise words, which also apply to me.



Mike.

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