On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:17:29AM -0700, jrs_66 wrote: > This is definitely the most angry forum I've ever seen... the > kicker is that the anger is almost always coming from the people > associated with the django project... hmmm..
In your previous thread, someone from the Django project helpfully offered to assist you, but you ignored every question he asked in his effort to better understand your question -- even after I pointed this out in case you had done it by mistake, as tends to happen when people mix posting styles, as you continue to do despite notification that it is nearly-universally considered bad etiquette to do so. <http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/msg/c720c6d39ad7518e> After people took the time to discuss your problem with you, you dropped the conversation. It has been five days since then. Consider what effect this might have on other people's willingness to take the time to help you. I'm not angry, and I don't intend to be mean, I'm just telling you how it is. I can't give you a pat on the back or whatever else might soften things for you over e-mail. I believe you misperceive this anger you describe, although when it seems that you are wasting other people's time, it tends to make them angry, so you might have detected some anger. The solution is not to complain about perceived anger then, "take your ball and leave," but to consider what you're doing that might be causing the trouble, and stop doing it. When people suggest that you Read The Fine Manual, it's usually an indication that they believe you are being lazy and asking for help when you could simply read the documentation -- that which others have generously provided for you -- and help yourself. They themselves probably did this. As a general reference on what you should do before posting a question to a technical forum such as this list, you may want to take a look at <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before>. In order to make it clear that you *have* already read the documentation, simply state so in your message and explain what you have learned, what confuses you, and what else you want to know. Teaching you how to find answers should be much more useful to you than simply answering your questions, so you might consider being grateful to those who did so instead of simply ignoring you. You might also want to take a look at: <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#not_losing> The document to which I have linked is not authoritative, and is definitely not filled with ideas that are accepted on this particular list, but I've found that it makes a lot of sense and helps newbies to understand why things are they way they are in many technical forums. I believe you'd be well off to read it. I'm certainly no authority, but I honestly believe that my responses to posts like yours free up people who know Django well to help solve more interesting problems than tutoring newbies on mailing list etiquette. Good luck. -- Phil Mocek --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
