> Overall I get the impression we're muddled on the answer to:
> 
> Should the auth tests pass out-of-the-box, independent of other project
> configuration?
> 
> Someone making a firm decision on that would help.  Personally I'd favor
> "yes" as the answer, but I don't feel very strongly about the issue.  I'd
> accept "no", but if the answer turns out to be "no" I think we should be
> consistent on it, and document the requirements for getting "manage.py test"
> to pass cleanly in a new project.  (And by that I mean list what the
> necessary templates are and what characteristics they need -- saying include
> 'django.contrib.admin' in INSTALLED_APPS isn't what I mean by documenting
> this.)

Karen summarizes my frustration fairly well -- While I'd like a 
clean test-pass on a new project, I don't _mind_ creating the 
templates as needed as part of the getting-started process.  It 
just feels a bit back-door.

However, if it's important enough to cause tests to fail, it 
should be equally visible & well-documented in various "starting 
a new project" docs as well as the testing section with special 
notes about (not) including contrib.admin in INSTALLED_APPS.

-tim




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