Jim,

Please contact me off list. I'd be happy to share our SOC3 and answer any
additional questions you may have. I can also put you in touch with other
Agari customers who had similar concerns but overcame them.

John Wilson

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:31 AM, jim c via dmarc-discuss <
dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote:

> I work for an organization that has fairly stringent security requirements
> regarding where our data is stored.  We recently moved towards DMARC, and
> are working with Agari.
>
> One of the things that Agari does - essentially the most important - is
> receive and analyze any forensic data returned.  The issue that we've
> noticed is that the forensic data is the entirety of the email.  It isn't
> just header info, but contains the entire message text, along with
> attachments.  This means that any externally-bound valid email that is
> mistakenly marked as a failure will have forensic data - ie the entire
> email - sent to Agari.  They will house the emails on their internal
> servers, wherever their data center is.  These emails are available for
> only 14 days....however, they cannot tell me how long their system backups
> are stored.  It wouldn't matter if they could, as we have no way of
> auditing their security measures, enforcing requirements, validating
> encryption, backup storage security, etc.
>
> Agari advertises as a cloud service, yet they are not Fedramp'd, which I
> believe should put them out of consideration for most federal agencies,
> considering accidental disclosure of classified data via email, if flagged
> as a failure via DMARC, would cause the email and hence the sensitive data
> to be house outside of any government system.  If Agari's systems were be
> to hacked, all of this data would be available - and again, they are not
> Fedramp'd, which ostensibly certifies their compliance with federal
> security requirements.
>
> Does anyone know if this issue has been discussed before (I couldn't find
> it), and how any of you out there that may work at organizations with
> similar security concerns, have dealt with this issue?
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