Yep, I am in communication with the mail host.   ☺  Thanks all.

Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
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From: Roland Turner <rol...@rolandturner.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:36 PM
To: Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>; Vladimir Dubrovin 
<dubro...@corp.mail.ru>; dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org
Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC oddity

Right. This is the envelope sender (5321.MAIL FROM). It doesn't align with 
linktechs.net, so won't contribute to a DMARC pass.

Why does the message have an author/5322.From: address in the linktechs.net 
domain, but not a valid DKIM signature? This looks like a typical 
list-breaks-DKIM scenario:


  *   You're a member of the WISPA board
  *   You post to bo...@wispa.org<mailto:bo...@wispa.org>
  *   The list expander sends a copy of the message back to you, with your 
email address still appearing in 5322.From:
  *   But the list expander has changed the message in a way that breaks DKIM
  *   The list expander does change the 5321.MAIL FROM to board-bounces, but 
SPF would have failed anyway, so this does not create a new problem
  *   The message reaches linktechs.net, showing a linktechs.net 5322.From, but 
with an unaligned 5321.MAIL FROM and a broken DKIM signature, so DMARC fails. 
The published policy requests rejection, so that's what happens.

Does this make sense?

- Roland


On 27/11/18 3:36 am, Dennis Burgess via dmarc-discuss wrote:
Nov 26 11:40:44 filter1 opendmarc[21194]: 406A610E1FC: SPF(mailfrom): 
board-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:board-boun...@wispa.org> none


Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/>
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From: Vladimir Dubrovin <dubro...@corp.mail.ru><mailto:dubro...@corp.mail.ru>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:28 PM
To: Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net><mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>; 
dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org<mailto:dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org>
Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC oddity


You see envelope-from (aka RFC 5321.mailfrom) address in logs, while DMARC 
checks policy against From: header (RFC 5322.From), envelope-from and From: may 
differ.

26.11.2018 22:17, Dennis Burgess via dmarc-discuss пишет:
Got an odd one, getting e-mails from another domain rejected based on the 
recipients domain policy?

Nov 26 11:40:44 filter1 postfix/cleanup[63990]: 406A610E1FC: milter-reject: 
END-OF-MESSAGE from filter1.linktechs.email[127.0.0.1]: 5.7.1 rejected by DMARC 
policy for linktechs.net; 
from=<board-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:board-boun...@wispa.org>> 
to=<dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> proto=ESMTP 
helo=<spam.techwebhosting.net>
Nov 26 11:40:44 filter1 postfix/smtpd[64109]: < inet:127.0.0.1:10020: 550 5.7.1 
rejected by DMARC policy for linktechs.net
Nov 26 11:40:44 filter1 postfix/smtpd[64109]: > 
spam.techwebhosting.net[216.146.225.112]: 550 5.7.1 rejected by DMARC policy 
for linktechs.net

Linktechs.net yes says not to accept mail form other mailserver,s but this is a 
wispa.org domain that don’t have dmarc or even a SPF record? Why does it use 
the to domain to lookup dmarc policy?





Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/>
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com






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