The more that’s left up to the receivers as to what does/does not end up in the 
aggregate report, the less valuable those reports become. As it stands already, 
it’s difficult enough to compare the results coming from receivers today let 
alone having the reports become even more fragmented and less deterministic. Is 
this suggestion being driven by work effort concerns (in creating a “complete 
and accurate” aggregate report?

True, the reporting recommendations are fairly open in the specification, but 
an intrinsic value of DMARC is reduced (IMHO materially) if the reports are 
diluted.



From: dmarc [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Franck Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:21 PM
To: Murray S. Kucherawy
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Limiting what goes in aggregate reports

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:55:26 PM
Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Limiting what goes in aggregate reports

I've received a feature request for OpenDMARC to limit what goes into aggregate 
reports.  Specifically, the suggestion is not to store any data regarding 
messages that pass the DMARC test and thus only report on things that fail.
I don't believe the current specification says anything requiring that all 
messages be recorded, so I think this wouldn't violate the specification, but 
it might violate the spirit of what was intended or what's desirable to Domain 
Owners.
Comments?

I think it is starting to build too much complexity in what receivers must do 
to generate aggregate reports. We should keep it light for receivers, it is up 
to senders to process the data.

It seems important to me to be able to look at the ratio pass/fail to know if 
you have a phishing problem, or if you have something in your infrastructure 
that would reject too many good emails, compared to your phishing problem, if 
you move to an active policy.

I think the spec should indicate, if not done already, that the receiver 
SHOULD(MUST?) report all emails in the aggregate report, but if people decide 
to go for this proposed option then at least notify it dumped some certain 
categories.

However if you don't have the report of emails that pass, how do you find 
sending IPs that may have your DKIM key?

So I'm not for limiting what goes in aggregate reports.



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