In article <1502083287.2191248.1065195288.7cdc7...@webmail.messagingengine.com> you write: >I thought long and hard about using a less inflammatory title, but I >figure maybe going in hard is the right way here, because I'd rather >fix this before it becomes a standard! (and thanks Dave for your >thoughtful questions during the Prague DMARC session which prompted >some of my thinking)
For the most part you're right, but there seem to be a few corner cases that make it worthwhile. Since it only makes sense to look at the ARC chain on mail that comes from senders that are generally reliable, I've asked why you don't just whitelist those senders and be done with it. The answer, at least at very large mail systems, is that a mailing list sends nice clean mail, but then it starts forwarding lots of spam. I've seen this on some of the ICANN lists where someone got his address book stolen that had both the lists and individuals' addresses, so we're now getting mail through the lists with faked addresses of a frequent participant. ARC passes along info from previous hops so the recipient can retroactively do filtering that the mailing list didn't. I personally don't expect to do that, but if Gmail says they will, I presume they will. R's, John _______________________________________________ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc