On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:48:48 PM Brandon Long wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:54 PM Kurt Andersen (b) <kb...@drkurt.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Brandon Long <bl...@google.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:48 AM Kurt Andersen (b) <kb...@drkurt.com>
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> *I filed issue 22 after observing a discussion today on another list:*
> >>> 
> >>> Pursuant to an email thread on the mailop list, we may want to consider
> >>> how (or if) to do something about the ways that people have developed
> >>> different processing handling for p=none vs. p!=none. Here's the
> >>> example:
> >>> 
> >>> Does anyone know of any negative side effects of setting a DMARC policy:
> >>> p=quarantine pct=0 ?
> >>> 
> >>> Is it equivalent to: p=none ?
> >>> 
> >>> I'm curious because I want to trigger Google Groups (and maybe others
> >>> list forwarders?) to rewrite the From in a DMARC compliant fashion
> >>> *prior*
> >>> to changing the domain's DMARC policy... to avoid the "leap of faith"
> >>> that
> >>> p=none's monitoring mode was supposed to alleviate.
> >>> 
> >>> (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/ticket/22#ticket)
> > 
> > [looks like your email worked]
> > 
> >> Trying a reply from my dmarc protected address...
> >> What are you proposing we do?  Specify what handling should be done more
> >> specifically in that case?
> >> Brandon
> > 
> > It may not be palatable, but I would consider some sort of recommendation
> > along the lines of "SHOULD NOT" in the to-be-revised standards-track spec
> > for DMARC to discourage special case processing of p=none.
> 
> Well, obviously there is some difference in handling of p=quarantine and
> p=none ;)
> 
> I guess the question is, in terms of forwarders, should they handle those
> differently or not.  I'm not sure how many are p=none vs p=quarantine vs no
> dmarc (I could look at our mail flow for some numbers, but some others on
> the list may have better numbers), but if a lot are at p=none, things will
> be yucky if it changes.  Ie, right now, gmail.com/hotmail.com/outlook.com
> are all p=none, so changing Groups or mailman for p=none will affect a lot
> of folks.
> 
> Brandon

I'd have to rethink if p=none was really worth publishing if that happened.  I 
guess we'd need p=none-really then.

Scott K

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