In my view, ARC, as an "Experimental Status" (and still in design) proposal *should* include support for all valid DKIM STD hashing methods, including rsa-hash1, and I agree, should not be the impetus for removing sha1 support in DKIM implementations.

Until a DKIM implementation is "ready" to a) consider DCRUP and b) add support for ed25119-sha256 (which comes with a considerable technical barrier), rsa-sha1 is still going to be available and used by pure DKIM STD implementations for the foreseeable future (a long time). I haven't been seeing many messages in my logs showing rsa-ed25119 DKIM signings, in today's logs so far, not one.

--
HLS


On 10/23/2018 11:24 AM, Kurt Andersen (b) wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:58 AM Scott Kitterman <skl...@kitterman.com
<mailto:skl...@kitterman.com>> wrote:

    Last time I looked at this particular issue, ARC could use any
    algorithm that
    DKIM uses.


Still correct.

       As I recall, that was once of the stimuli for the DCRUP working
    group (to avoid having rsa-sha1 be valid for ARC by obsoleting it
    in DKIM).


I don't think that ARC drove the DCRUP work as much as the desire to
get badness officially obsoleted :-)

    It looks like this discussion has been moved to a new draft,
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmarc-arc-multi-01
    (although the
    reference is wrong,
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmarc-arc-multi-02
    is current.


Yes that's correct.

    Unfortunately, I don't find any actual guidance on what algorithms
    are
    currently used.


Any that are valid for DKIM - see first sentence above.

    Secion 6, Phases of Algorithm Evolution, gives some process
    (which seriously needs revision - I thought we all knew flag days
    don't work
    at Internet scale), but no actual guidance.


Correct - we've deferred any real attention on this until we got the
ARC protocol document nailed down. With the request to publish being a
few hours old now from Barry, this might be an excellent topic to
pursue next :-)

    DKIM, as updated by the DCRUP work, has two valid crypto algorithms:

    rsa-sha256
    ed25119-sha256

    One has been obsoleted:

    rsa-sha1

    Which among those is valid for ARC and how do I know?


The same ones that are valid for DKIM (as updated by DCRUP). What we
haven't worked out is how to handle mixed algorithm chains.

--Kurt


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