I wasn't thinking this would go in the doc, just for background.

Autocorrectly,
John
On 27 Jun 2019 12:23, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenb...@verisign.com> wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: dmarc <dmarc-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of John Levine 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 6:52 AM 
> > To: dmarc@ietf.org 
> > Cc: superu...@gmail.com 
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSDs in draft-ietf-dmarc-psd 
> > 
> > >I concur.  Does anyone know of such a policy statement from ICANN?  I 
> > >don't recall it being present in, say, any of the DNS RFCs, but there 
> > >are so many of those now... 
> > 
> > Hi from ICANN 65 in Marrakech. 
> > 
> > The gTLD registry contracts say directly or indirectly what's allowed in 
> > each 
> > TLD zone.  Here's the language in the base registry agreement that the new 
> > TLDs all use: 
> > 
> > https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/agreements/agreement- 
> > approved-31jul17-en.html#exhibitA.1 
> > 
> > For the older TLDs, notably .com, the contract refers to Consensus 
> > Policies, 
> > which are at https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registrars/consensus- 
> > policies-en 
> > 
> > One of those policies is the Registry Services Evaluation Policy 
> > (RSEP) which is at 
> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registries/rsep/policy-en 
> > 
> > Here's the list of RSEP requests: 
> > 
> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rsep-2014-02-19-en 
> > 
> > Adding a dmarc record to individual TLD would need an RSEP, for which an 
> > RFC would likely be helpful but probably not essential.  The RSEP process 
> > for 
> > things that are not politically controversial is not particularly hard. 
> > 
> > Adding them to all of the TLDs could be a new consensus policy, or maybe a 
> > change to the base agreement.  How to do that is above my pay grade. 
>
> The ICANN minutiae is probably way more detail than is needed in the 
> document. I'd be more comfortable if there were text in the Introduction 
> along the lines of what Murray said in his last note (paraphrased here 
> slightly): "Please note that today's operational and policy reality prevents 
> this experiment from being deployed globally.  If the experiment shows that 
> PSD solves a real problem at a large scale, the results could prove to be 
> useful in the development of policies outside of the IETF that would permit 
> its ubiquitous deployment". 
>
> Scott 
>
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