On 7/27/2020 1:12 PM, Joseph Brennan wrote:
Avoiding it by redefining From: to serve the former purpose of Sender: and creating a new Author: to serve the former purpose of From: seems to me to start us down a long road of new header fields every couple of years.
Oh?  This is cast essentially as a fear. Your basis for believing this is what?

As for the re-defining of From:, the premise of the Author: proposal is that DMARC has already effected that change.


Verifying that the message really is from phisher.example is a useful data point. The receiving system can choose to mark it with a warning like "you never had mail before from phisher.example".

Mark  it how and for what use? How does that deal with the user-level problems caused by From:-field rewriting?


Consider a DMARC DNS tag for the bank to ask the receiving system to verify the From, while the end-user system would not use that tag. I think this is the distinction that should be made, for mailing lists to work but sensitive data to be more protected than end-user mail.

I don't understand what you are suggesting or how it would work usefully.

d/

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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