> On 11 Dec 2020, at 17:07, Dave Crocker <dcroc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/11/2020 8:32 AM, Kurt Andersen (b) wrote: >> Perhaps: >> none: not certain at all >> quarantine: I believe I've got control of all my sending, but am >> not 100% positive >> reject: I have control of all my sending; if it doesn't pass DMARC, >> it's use of the domain is bogus. >> >> But the problem case in our off-topic rabbit trail meanderings is that >> people who "have control of all their sending" still don't necessarily send >> mail of consistent seriousness nor do they have any control of the paths by >> which that mail takes to get to the ultimate recipient. There is a >> conflation of "control of emission" with "control of path". > > A specification providing a choice of labels/settings needs to have a shared > understanding of what those labels mean. > > It seems pretty clear that DMARC's p= hasn't had that, to date. There is no > consistency to the criteria used to set the label and, I suspect, little > consistency to how a receiver's filtering engine uses it. > > We need to settle on text that resonates with a consistent interpretation, by > both domain owners and email receivers. > > I've offered an approach that might permit reaching that community -- not > just IETF -- rough consensus. > > At this point we need to get suggested revisions for improvement. For now, I > don't have better text to suggest. >
There’s probably better phrasing than ‘DMARC compliant’ here, but here’s my stab at describing the processes. note, this is very close to the language I use with clients. p=none: mail sent by authorized users of this domain may or may not be aligned in a DMARC compliant way. p=quarantine: mail sent by authorized users of this domain should be aligned in a DMARC compliant way. Mail that is unaligned may or may not be legitimate messages from this organization. p=reject: all mail sent from this domain should be aligned in a DMARC compliant way. Mail that is unaligned is not authorized by the domain owner and may be discarded or rejected by the recipient. laura -- Having an Email Crisis? We can help! 800 823-9674 Laura Atkins Word to the Wise la...@wordtothewise.com (650) 437-0741 Email Delivery Blog: https://wordtothewise.com/blog
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