On 1/26/21 10:56 AM, Todd Herr wrote:

    > In addition, if I recover that message from the log, I might find no
    > relationship with the reporting domain or the reported source IP.
    > That is to say, I won't be able to deduce if the report is fake
   or real.


   My main point here is to point out the attack.


The attack scenario you have described relies on several possible but perhaps implausible conditions all being true:

1. There exists a domain run by people who are savvy enough to want to implement DMARC and can consume reports, but don't have a good grasp on which IPs are likely to be theirs and which aren't, and don't have an understanding of how to use common tools to figure out whether an IP address might belong to their provider's ASN or one halfway around the world, and

Here's a very basic question: if I do not know all of the IP addresses that send on my behalf, are DMARC reports of any value? Enterprises farm out email all of the time and it could be difficult to know when they change their server addresses, etc. If the reporting is predicated on your having in effect and up to date SPF record (ie, do all of the work to be able to produce one), then that negates anybody who just uses DKIM alone which should be a completely acceptable use case. And no, the domain/selector tells you nothing when it doesn't verify.

If it is the case that you MUST know all of your sending IP addresses, that should be in blinking bold right up front in section 7.

Mike

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