It basically comes down to data gatekeeping for product monetization.

Mimecast doesn't send RUA/RUF reports externally, because they bought DMARC Analyzer. Similarly, Proofpoint does not send reports from Proofpoint Essentials (ppe-hosted.com) or hosted PPS clusters (pphosted.com) because of their Email Fraud Defense product.

In the same vein, Valimail has a partnership with Microsoft for Exchange Online reports (not the same as outlook.com reports) that operates in a similar manner, except without the monetization barrier. I've heard rumors for a long time that Microsoft will start sending reports from Exchange Online "sometime soon", but I'm somewhat skeptical until we actually see it implemented.

In all of these previous cases, they "synthesize" reports from the respective email gateways as well as ingesting external reports. In essence, you have to use the respective paired product to see your own domain's DMARC data, as they don't send reports to external endpoints, reflected by the lack of reporting you're seeing.

Outlook.com was sending reports up until recently... their reporting consistency seem to be very unreliable as of late. And I don't think I have seen any reporting from icloud.com.

So, as you noted, what we're left with are gaping holes in data reporting with some of the largest ESP's, one can only hope they eventually decide to share with the rest of the world.

- Mark Alley

On 11/20/2022 11:16 AM, Douglas Foster wrote:
Thanks, but my real question was, "why are any major players not fully participating?"

If they are unimpressed with DMARC filtering, does our work make it more attractive?

If they are only opting out of reporting, can we do something to make the reporting piece more palatable?

Doug

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 11:26 AM Steven M Jones <s...@crash.com> wrote:

    On 11/19/22 19:13, Douglas Foster wrote:
    > I note that I have no feedback reports from:

    The best view of who participates in DMARC feedback reporting probably
    lies with the report processors. Some of them will tell you who
    they are
    getting reports from:

    https://dmarcian.com/dmarc-data-providers/

    Outlook.com certainly appears to be providing aggregate reports,
    though
    I haven't personally received one since September...

    --S.


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