He said that two large mailers said that they would need an indicator
that the change is in effect, ideally a version change.

Barry

On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 10:46 AM Douglas Foster
<dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Pardon, I thought John indicated that it was effectively vetoed by two large 
> mailers
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023, 8:27 AM Barry Leiba <barryle...@computer.org> wrote:
>>
>> Are we *again* questioning the tree walk, which is, recall, a settled issue?
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 7:53 AM Douglas Foster
>> <dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Given that the PSL is subject to errors, it is reasonable to warn senders 
>> > that
>> >
>> > "Because of the risk of PSL errors, some evaluators MAY NOT accept some or 
>> > all forms of relaxed alignment as acceptable authentication."
>> >
>> > Technically, this is just stating the obvious, since evaluators MAY do 
>> > whatever they want.  Then the inference from that warning is:
>> >
>> > "Senders SHOULD avoid configurations that depend on the PSL for 
>> > authentication.   This is accomplished by publishing a DMARC policy on 
>> > both the organizational domain and any mail-sending subdomains, and by 
>> > using strict alignment on those policies."
>> >
>> > But strict alignment will be burdensome for some configurations, so an 
>> > intermediate solution would be:
>> >
>> > - define an optional "organizational domain" token for DMARC policies.   
>> > If present, it must be equal to or a parent of the current domain.
>> > - If the token is provided AND matches the PSL, then the organizational 
>> > domain is considered safe for relaxed alignment.   If the token is 
>> > provided but does not match the PSL, then the longer of the two domain 
>> > names will be used for relaxed alignment.
>> >
>> > By using same-domain DMARC policy, senders permit improved efficiency for 
>> > evaluators while protecting both senders and evaluators from PSL errors.
>> >
>> > Doug Foster
>> >
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