On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 10:33 PM Barry Leiba <barryle...@computer.org> wrote:

> Maybe better?:
>
> NEW
> If they can block outgoing or reply DNS messages, they can prevent
> systems from discovering senders' DMARC policies.  Recipients will
> then use their local policies for handling mail in the absence of
> DMARC and will not be able to take the senders' policies into account.
> END
>
> (Or just skip the second sentence and do it as you suggest....)
>
> Barry
>
> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 4:44 PM Todd Herr
> <todd.herr=40valimail....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > Colleagues,
> >
> > The second bullet of section 11.3 DNS Security reads:
> > "If they can block outgoing or reply DNS messages, they can prevent
> systems from discovering senders' DMARC policies, causing recipients to
> assume p=none by default." This seems inconsistent with the text in 5.7.2
> ("Continue if one is found, or terminate DMARC evaluation otherwise") and
> 4.7 ("Handling of DNS errors when querying for the DMARC policy record is
> left to the discretion of the Mail Receiver") neither of which describe a
> scenario where "No DMARC record found means DMARC record exists with a
> policy of p=none" I believe the phrase "causing recipients to assume p=none
> by default" should be stricken from the bullet in 11.3.
> > Please discuss.
>
>
I made the original proposed change of just striking the phrase "causing
recipients to assume p=none by default" and recorded same in closed issue
#123


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