Hello, Byoung-Jo

Regarding your comments on the security text, for your comment 2, I do not
quite get you. Provide clear text expressing your concern then I will
review and try to reflect to the draft. For your comment 5, just you need
to be sure that the given text is about the general security consideration.

Cheers.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:44 PM, KIM, BYOUNG-JO J (BYOUNG-JO) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Below are my comments on the draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-03.
>
> Overall, the draft has much to admire and agreeable on most points.
> Kudos to the authors.
>
>
> ===================
> Comment 1:
>
> REQ2:  Transparency to Upper Layers when needed
>
> >> I would like to suggest that DMM must provide transparency to upper
> layers for a limited time only when needed. Upper layer protocols or
> applications that are unaware of IP layer mobility and IP address changes
> cannot be supported indefinitely, without compromising the purpose of DMM.
> How much time is of course another matter, but that can be discussed during
> design or even dynamic.
> In time, applications and upper layer protocols will have to be updated to
> handle IP address changes by reconnect or other means, as long as DMM
> provides temporary shield from packet losses or other disruptions and buy
> them time to make preparations.
>
> ====================
> Comment 2:
>
> REQ6:  Security considerations
>
> >> I think the requirements described here may give the impression that
> DMM excludes ephemeral security for the purpose of routing to the correct
> entities, but not necessarily tied to service authorizations or identities.
> Also, protection requirements beyond what current ISPs deal with for their
> access routers seem unnecessary. DMM's own security should be limited to
> risks that DMM adds to the access network, not the whole access network
> security.
>
> =====================
> Comment 3:
> REQ7:  DMM should enable multicast solutions in flexible distribution
> scenario.
>
> >> I lack the necessary knowledge on multicast but this seems like a
> feel-good statement without a point. I suggest to drop this requirement or
> make a clearer statement like "DMM should allow multicast to survive IP
> layer mobility without packet loss", or more modestly, "DMM should not
> foreclose multicast support during IP layer mobility.", etc..
>
> ====================
> Comment 4:
>
> 5.  Security Considerations
>    Distributed mobility management (DMM) requires two kinds of security
>    considerations: First, access network security that only allows a
>    legitimate mobile host/router to access the DMM service; Second, end-
>    to-end security that protects signaling messages for the DMM service.
>
> >> Related to my Comment 2, "access network security" is confusing here,
> as it often means allowing access to the network to begin with. DMM must
> assume that is already done at least in the lower layer or even IP layer.
> It may or may not offer DMM service to anyone or only to authorized
> devices/users. I think DMM must cover the situation where the service is
> offered to anything that asks for it, while ensuring the packets are not
> redirected to wrong directions.
>
> ===================
>
> Bests.
>
> Byoung-Jo "J" Kim
> AT&T Labs - Research
> https://sites.google.com/site/macsbug/
>
>
> On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > This mail starts a two week WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-03.
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> > otherwise they are likely to be neglected. We require minimum three
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> >
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> >
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