Thats a great idea. Lets find a slot to discuss with Charlie and understand the comments.
Any one interested in attending, send me a unicast note. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Marco Liebsch <marco.lieb...@neclab.eu<mailto:marco.lieb...@neclab.eu>> wrote: Can we quickly set up an ad-hoc site meeting here at IETF100? E.g. Thursday Afternoon III or later would be possible for me. Would be an opportunity to follow-up f2f and further elaborate on that. marco From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) Sent: Mittwoch, 15. November 2017 03:42 To: vojislav vucetic Cc: Charlie Perkins; dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [DMM] Fwd: Re: [5gangip] To initiate user-plane study work in 3GPP Like I said, concern is valid. The deliverable about that study. If it turns out there is no significant optimizations that operators can convince operators, then we will drop the work. Sri From: vojislav vucetic <vvuce...@outlook.com<mailto:vvuce...@outlook.com>> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 6:35 PM To: Sri Gundavelli <sgund...@cisco.com<mailto:sgund...@cisco.com>> Cc: Charlie Perkins <charles.perk...@earthlink.net<mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net>>, "dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>" <dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [DMM] Fwd: Re: [5gangip] To initiate user-plane study work in 3GPP He put you on the spot👹 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <sgund...@cisco.com<mailto:sgund...@cisco.com>> wrote: Hi Charlie, Fair point! As part of these efforts, we need to understand and quantify those optimizations. For not all work items, we need blessing from anyone before we initiate any new work, we do what the community believes is the right thing here. This work is less about building a solution, and more about investigation. This is one of those items where can bring possibly great optimizations to the mobile data plane. We lost the signaling war (after CDMA2000 ended) for various reasons, less technical and more about legacy and other reasons, but that does not mean we will fail every time. Sri From: dmm <dmm-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of Charlie Perkins <charles.perk...@earthlink.net<mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net>> Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 4:43 PM To: "dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>" <dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>> Subject: [DMM] Fwd: Re: [5gangip] To initiate user-plane study work in 3GPP Hello folks, I stumbled across this terrific diagram from email that was sent by Satoru-san yesterday. I think it's an indication that current operators are not really asking for a simplified data plane. Or, at least, that we really need to understand under what conditions they would accept an IETF-designed simplified data plane before embarking on a solution for their needs. Regards, Charlie P. PS. I hope it is O.K. to forward this email... ====================================================================== Alex, .... Please take a look at the attached picture which one of the realities happened in some operator. Cheers, --satoru <image001.png> <PastedGraphic-5.png> _______________________________________________ dmm mailing list dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm
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