True, my concern is not new.  However, this is now the IETF last call, so I need to raise it to the larger community.

Yours,

Joel

On 11/2/2022 6:29 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:


On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 12:08 PM Joel Halpern <j...@joelhalpern.com> wrote:

    This document appears to be technically internally consistent.
    However,
    it appears to redefine the 3GPP architecture.  Which seems
    inappropriate
    for an IETF Proposed Standard.  if another SDO started redefining
    the IP
    architecture we would be (and have been) understandably upset.  The
    Traditional mode significantly modifies a defined standard
    encapsulation
    from 3GPP.  The Enhanced Mode goes further, and redefines the 3GPP
    architecture for delivering services.

    These may be good ideas.  if so, they should be discussed and
    adopted by
    the SDO which owns the architecture.  The fact that these were
    brought
    to 3GPP and preliminary versions of these ideas were turned down
    emphasis the point that we should not be stepping on other
    people's work.



This is nothing new, it has been the dmm story in recent years, and you know it well.

Behcet

    Yours,

    Joel

    On 11/2/2022 10:22 AM, The IESG wrote:
    > The IESG has received a request from the Distributed Mobility
    Management WG
    > (dmm) to consider the following document: - 'Segment Routing
    IPv6 for Mobile
    > User Plane'
    >    <draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane-21.txt> as Proposed Standard
    >
    > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
    solicits final
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    >
    > Abstract
    >
    >
    >     This document specifies the applicability of SRv6 (Segment
    Routing
    >     IPv6) to the user-plane of mobile networks.  The network
    programming
    >     nature of SRv6 accomplishes mobile user-plane functions in a
    simple
    >     manner.  The statelessness of SRv6 and its ability to
    control both
    >     service layer path and underlying transport can be
    beneficial to the
    >     mobile user-plane, providing flexibility, end-to-end network
    slicing,
    >     and SLA control for various applications.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > The file can be obtained via
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-srv6-mobile-uplane/
    >
    >
    > The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
    >
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3891/
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3979/
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