LPI  33rpm10"    33rpm12"   45rpm10"    45rpm12"     Max Level
---------------------------------------------------------------
88      6:06            8:45            5:04            6:29            +6 db
96      6:40            9:32            5:32            7:04            +6 db
104     7:13            10:20           6:00            7:39            +6 db
112     7:46            11:08           6:27            8:15            +6 db
120     8:20            11:55           6:55            8:50            +5 db
128     8:53            12:43           7:23            9:25            +4 db
136     9:26            13:31           7:50            10:01           +3 db
178     12:21           17:41           10:16           13:06           +1 db
194     13:28           19:17           11:11           14:17           0 db
210     14:34           20:52           12:06           15:28           0 db
226     15:41           22:28           13:02           16:38           -2 db
242     16:47           24:03           13:57           17:49           -2 db
258     17:54           25:38           14:52           19:00           -4 db
274     19:01           27:14           15:47           20:10           -6 db

This was a handy little chart I found, basically tells you the riaa
standards for the ammount of time you can have vs the increase of DB level.
These are strict times, you can't go a second over it. But it's useful to
know.... by the way, this is party the reason why dilli's stuff sounds go
heavy, ever noticed how short his tracks are??
It's also well known that pressing at 45rpm will give you a better sound.

Hope this helps you all...

rene
http://www.bachelorsofscience.com



-----Original Message-----
From: flip ze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:22 PM
To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: vinyl requirements


THankx Mike

this is what i call a usefull info!

keep it

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:30 PM
Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: vinyl requirements


> 140 grams is standard.  130 is a little on the flimsy side.
> 180 gram is sturdy, heavy; real pleasing in the hand - but costs
> considerably more than 140.
>
> The gram weight per 12" will *NOT* effect the sound of the recording.
> The only thing that a lower gram weight will effect is the "aesthetic
> pleasure" of it not being a heavier, sturdier record.
>
> Lower gram weights can produce more defects in the record if the plant you
> press with does not take the care to make sure their recycled vinyl is
> completely up to tempurature and melted entirely.  Little "bumps" of
> unmelted vinyl can get into the press when manufacturing the 12".
>
> Mastering... dont fuck with anything but a highly reputable mastering
house.
>
> Simply put: I wouldn't have my tunes mastered at a mastering house that
> doesnt have a lathe, and I wouldnt trust my mastering with a "cutting
house"
> that is more known for simply cutting reference dubs and not mastering as
> well.
>
> The Exchange is still the most affordable mastering house that can give
you
> +6db levels on the mastered tune, grooves that aren't run together, all on
a
> 45 rpm with fat bass grooves.  These mastering/lathe engineers are the
> founders of tight quality DnB mastering.
> (city codes have changed in London but here's the old number off hand:
> 01 71 485 0530
>
> JTS (UK, essex) isnt bad but imo not as good as the exchange.
> However RAM mastered with them for ages.
>
> There's also Metroplis - but they cost a bit more than Exchange or JTS.
>
> If your going to go with a US mastering house - I would recommend Richard
> Simpson in Hollywood.  He's affordable and he can give you results your
> looking for reasonable prices.  He has also mastered a good deal of the US
> DnB that has come out domestically.
> http://www.richardsimpsonmastering.com/
>
> To be able to get the loudest mastered results (+6db) and cut on 45 rpm
> you need to keep the (time) length of your tune under 6 and a half
minutes.
>
>
> MK2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.madbass.com
>
>
>
>
>
> on 9/23/02 8:23 PM, Kevin A. Cameron at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> > vinyl grams?
> >
> > well of course you have to get your track sounding as good as possible,
and
> > mastering can be/is a part of that... but thats the only requirement.
> >
> > to be dj friendly you need something like a 1>2 min intro, then a "drop"
of
> > sorts where your track would take over from the other track...
> >
> > anything else??
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: flip ze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:30 PM
> > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: vinyl requirements
>
> > what about vinyl grams, masterings, etc.?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin A. Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:31 AM
> > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: vinyl requirements
> >
> >
> >> mono sub.. think thats the only requirement
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: flip ze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:31 PM
> >> To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> >> Subject: [dnb-prod] vinyl requirements
>
> >> do you know what are the requirements for doing a good quality DJ
oriented
> >> vinyl?
>
> >>
> >> FLIP-Z - N.SEKT
> >> http://www.badmood.net
> >>
>
>
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