Nick, I have been looking for that kind of info for ages and no-one ever seems to be able to quantify the kind of performance that you can expect from a decent audio PC (probably because its so dependant on plug in count and set up). But thats cool to be able to expect up to 25-30 tracks with a plug in or two on each (some could have none). My tunes usually have around 16 tracks, so i'm way happy with possibly 30 before bouncing.
I was looking at the new Digital Village PCs with P4 2.8ghz Hyperthreading, 1gig DDR400 ram, 800mhz bus and 120gig SATA drives - which for �899 i reckon's pretty good for an over the counter model and that kind of performance should be awesome for audio. Have you tried Sonar XL - seems pretty good, but most people seem to use Logic/Cubase. I'm a Logic user meself, but wondered what the alternatives are (mind you LAP5 for audio is pretty much there, esp on a fast computer with a nice soft sampler like the MOTU MAch 5!) I would def keep my desk and valve EQ/Ultrafex on the main inserts and prob look for an MAudio card with 10 outs so i wouldn't be going totally digital. Desks are always handy 8) Thanks Dan -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lankester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 October 2003 18:55 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Supa hard bass sounds Ez dan, Yeah, the bass station sounds pretty much identical to the original (although it's been a long time since I played with one)... Although I'm not sure I would say that they have accurately modelled the actual analogue qualities of the original synth (although you should be able to improve on it using an amp simulator plugin of some kind). I haven't used it too much yet though, as I also have the V-station which may well end up replacing my Hardware Nova.. (although I'm not sure yet)... My PC (I built myself) is an AMD 2200XP+ cpu with 1G DDR Ram on an ABIT NForce2 motherboard. I have an RME Multiface soundcard and a couple of fast hard drives too. At the moment I'm running Cubase SX and Reason 2.5 with a host of plugins (vst and directx)... With this setup I can comfortably run 30+ channels of audio with at least one or two plugins on all of them (@24 bit/48khz), so I can normally (with a bit of experience in terms of structuring a song efficiently in cubase/reason) get a whole song done without bouncing down to save power! To be honest though, I reckon I will upgrade in the middle of next year coz I still need more power... More plugins/tracks would definitely come in handy and you need a bit of overhead anyway... I've been using software only (with the exception of the nova) for about 6 years now and to be honest, I'm pretty happy with it... The main thing that I lack is some kind of hardware amp or desk to process the sounds and to give it some proper analogue warmth... I'd say that this is essential if you want to maximise the quality of your sound.. Also, I'd say that setting up a computer only studio from scratch (on your own) is something that can take a lot of energy... Keeping up with all the updates, solving problems and all that fun stuff can get a bit tiring if you're unlucky with your choice of hardware/software... Picking the right plugins helps a LOT too... and keeping your plugin list down to the essentials helps to remove indecision from the creative process... (I own FAR too many plugins!)... So yeah, Software rocks! Nick p.s. if anyone on this list lives in the Ukraine then I'd appreciate a hookup... I just got scammed for �750 on Ebay!!! MUUUUUTHAAAAAFUCCCCKKKAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!! Any contacts for cheap Ak47s or local hardnuts would be much appreciated!!! -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 October 2003 09:47 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Supa hard bass sounds Nick Bit of a coincidence there. Whats the bass station sound like? Whats your PC setup and are you happy with the performance of it? How many tracks, polyphony etc do you get out of it and what would you change/problems etc? Just curious about going down the software only route... Cheers Dan -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lankester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 October 2003 18:10 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Supa hard bass sounds: Like an oil tanker just cruised into your back garden! Haha!!! Just picked up the bass-station... Right, where's my earplugs! Cheers, Nick -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 October 2003 17:39 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Supa hard bass sounds: Like an oil tanker just cruised into your back garden! Yup, Do that on a Novation bass patch (the bass-station VST is out now for about �90 - looks good) and prepare to batten down the hatches - you want v quick attacks and not much sustain and release, decay to taste... Ha, I was totally blown away too by that scene in the LOTR when the sword hits the ground and theres a massive bass note (one of the only reasons for going to a popcorn cinema). Layer those basslines too and render to single wavs (or resample thru the desk if using hardware) and stick them back in a sampler, layer again or have the 2 layers using diff filters and have a fiddle - you can get some surprising results. Good luck, Dan -----Original Message----- From: Andy Abang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2003 18:39 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Supa hard bass sounds: Like an oil tanker just cruised into your back garden! for short, sharp, really punchy bass synths, make a really powerful bassy synth sound, turn down the sustain and release all the way, have a really sharp attack, and then just adjust the decay. you can make your bass synth sounds really nice, percussive, and "riff"-y this way. as far as making some good samples that just have a lot of bass, you could always just EQ them and (yeah it's bad for headroom) crank the low frequencies a bit. I dunno if that'll help but it's an idea :) ~a -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lankester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:14 AM To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] Supa hard bass sounds: Like an oil tanker just cruised into your back garden! OK, so my next question is... How do you go about getting bass sounds that are short and sharp, but that are so powerful as to take you off your feet... As an example, I'm thinking of moments in films (can't actually think of a specific film at the mo... actually, maybe lord of the rings...) where there's a scene change and the audio goes from quiet to really bassy really quickly.... Kind of like a big bit of metal being dropped and vibrating through the ground..!! If you're still with me at this point then I'll go on to say that I've come close to this but it still doesn't match up to the effects in the movies.. There's a sample or two in distorted reality that kind of do what I'm talking about but they're too clean... Does anyone get me here? Or am I talking shite? I guess it could just be a case of having a fat analogue processor of some kind?!? (all my equipment is software).. 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