On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:28:38PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Isaac Dunham <ibid...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 05:49:54PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > > wrote: > >> http://slashdot.org/submission/4203115/removing-libsystemd0-from-a-live-running-debian-system > >> > >> if anyone would like to help get the word out, as a way to actively > >> engage more developers and end-users to give them their right to > >> choose what software to run, please do consider hitting the "+" button > >> on the above submission. > > > > Done, I think. (I use NoScript, so...I guess the "+" button sticking > > means it worked...) > > it's up and happily collecting comments. > > > Reading it I noticed "dbus, pulseaudio, policykit-1" - I only recompiled > > util-linux. Checked in Aptitude, and I don't have dbus installed. > > (I have libdbus installed, but not the dbus daemon, pulse, or policykit.) > .. > you are lucky :) i run a wide range of software as part of my > business so i have quite a bit more around. > > > boot system into non-functional state due to udev not working? > > Huh? udev works fine for me (Debian Jessie). > > bizarre! can you remember if, as a result of recompiling and > installing the util-linux packages, initrds were regenerated at all? > (it's done in a postinst hook somewhere)
I don't remember. Actually...grepping /root/.bash_history, I see I only installed the bsdutils package (which is the only one depending on libsystemd). I would assume that means there was not regeneration at that point, but I've updated the other util-linux packages, udev, and the kernel since. I've also gotten my system to boot using mdev, but not to udev-less X. So I disabled mdev. The system in question is Jessie, downgraded from sid a couple months ago. (I enabled Jessie repos, apt-pinned at much higher priority, updated, let apt downgrade everything it wanted to, and disabled sid repos and the apt pinning.) It's new enough that I don't have an Xorg.conf. > > And I've rebuilt > > util-linux and removed libsystemd0 already. > > ohh, you are so lucky! can i add you to the list of successes? Sure, if you want to keep count. > > Or are you trying to remove udev as well? > > no i'm not - it just... the entire system froze on me at checking the > udev entries. but, at the time, i didn't have makedev installed. > > well... there may be hope then that i can actually get udev back up > and running. this would be good as sound is not coming out of the > speakers at the moment. volume's set, etc. etc. - just.... no sound. Does "alsactl init" do anything for you, by some chance? I just spent a day figuring out that that was what I needed to do, after I realized I didn't have sound on a several month old system. Thanks, Isaac Dunham _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
