On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:21:03AM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> Hmmm, you might have to use isohybrid (in the syslinux package) to make the
> ISO bootable when dd'ed to a USB key.  See
> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/iso2usb.

Did that.  dd'd it again.  Now it boots, though, as expected, it still 
seems to think it's a Debian installer.

Will proceed with installation when I've got the right hard drive in the 
laptop again.

-- hendrik

> 
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 04:35:47PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 04:30:39PM -0500, william moss wrote:
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> > > >
> > > > On 02/23/2015 04:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > > > I have a three-or-four year-old laptop on which I am replacingg the
> > hard drive.  It
> > > > > seems to be old enough not to have proper virtualisatoin hardware.
> > It currently
> > > > > dual-boots Debian testing, and, once in a blue moon, Windows XP.
> > > > >
> > > > > (So far the main problems I have had is to copy Windows' three
> > partitions -- the one
> > > > > that runs, the so-called restore partition, and the EFI partition.
> > I'm hoping that
> > > > > grub will find a way to make the running partition bootable.  I
> > managed to get
> > > > > clonezilla to copy the three partitions (even though the EFI
> > partition seemed to
> > > > > violate what I know of the EFI specs in that it didn't have a FAT
> > 12, 16, or 32
> > > > > filesystem.  Maybe grub will be able to figure out how to boot what
> > needs booting.)
> > >
> > > Oh yes,  Despite the EFI partition it is still a BIOS machine.  Go
> > figure.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But maybe this is the ideal time to try the iso on the new drive and
> > try it on real
> > > > > hardware instead of a virtual machine.  If things were to go
> > > > > massively wrong, I could always put the old disk back in.
> > > > >
> > > > > Except I need instructions just how to do this.  It does not have a
> > CD or DVD drive,
> > > > > but will boot from USB stick.
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I go about putting the installation .iso onto a USB stick so
> > it will boot?
> > > > > Debian should be good enough to accomplish that, riight?
> > > > >
> > > > > Or is there another installation method it might be more useful to
> > test?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- hendrik
> > > > >
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> > > > If you insist, there is an application to do this in Linux (one for
> > > > windows also, do not remember the name):
> > > > unetbootin
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > >
> > > > dd if=Fully-qualified-path-to-the-image  of=Raw-USB-Device
> > > >
> > > > for example
> > > > dd  if=/home/daffyduck/download/devian.iso  of=/dev/sde
> >
> > Did that.
> >
> > Wouldn't boot.
> >
> > Booting with the USB stick plugged in, pressed ESC to get a boot menu,
> > the USB stick appeared as one of the devices I could boot from, but
> > when booting, just got a blank screen with a blinking cursor.
> >
> > The same as when I tried booting from my new hard drive, on which no
> > boot sector has ever been written.
> >
> > Tried seeing if there was anything on the stick (after booting
> > from my old hard drive, which still has Debian on it.  It told
> > me:
> >
> > root@notlookedfor:/home/hendrik# fdisk /dev/sdb
> >
> > Welcome to fdisk (util-linux 2.25.2).
> > Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
> > Be careful before using the write command.
> >
> > /dev/sdb: device contains a valid 'iso9660' signature, it's strongly
> > recommended to wipe the device by command wipefs(8) if this setup is
> > unexpected to avoid possible collisions.
> >
> > Device does not contain a recognized partition table.
> > Created a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xfcf3453e.
> >
> > Command (m for help): q
> >
> > root@notlookedfor:/home/hendrik#
> >
> > so evidently the dd succeeded in putting something on the disk.
> >
> > Had my son (on an Ubuntu system) use his graphical disk
> > contents display and it told him is was a CDROM, and the file system on
> > it appeared to contain a Debian system.
> >
> > Oh, yes.  He tried to boot his machine, which is one of the thinkpad
> > models that's guaranteed to run Linux, from the USB stick.  It wouldn't
> > boot either.
> >
> > Looks as if there's something else that needs to be done than just dd.
> >
> > -- hendrik
> >
> > > >
> > > > use blkid to get the USB device.
> > >
> > > Ah! That easy!  I just need to copy the iso file as is to the USB stick
> > and that's
> > > enough to make it boot?  There's nothing special about it being a USB
> > stick or a CD?
> > >
> > > marvellous!
> > >
> > > -- hendrik
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